Return to David's theory of evolution, purpose & theodicy (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, April 22, 2024, 18:40 (213 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: it is because I make choices and you refuse to.

dhw: The reason for your illogicalities and contradictions is that you offer theories which are so illogical and contradictory that you are constantly forced to admit that only God would be able to understand them because you can’t. Examples: Your all-powerful, all-knowing designer is forced to use a messy, inefficient way of designing the only things he wants to design; your selfless God wants to be recognized and worshipped, and is all-good, although he allows human evil in order to alleviate his boredom. He is also “to blame” (your word) for natural evils, which despite his omnipotence he is powerless to prevent, although he does his best.

DAVID: The usual inventions. God's free will allows human evil. WE can only assume God wants us to recognize him and worship Him. Don't blame Him for our thoughts. Stop blaming me for not knowing God's reasoning for His actions. I know what God did but can only guess as to why.

It is not God's boredom in discussion! It is human boredom in EDEN!

DAVID: My faith dictates my view reality.

DAVID: Don't forget the first think I did was to read Adler's "How to think about God" with a choice of a form of God to follow.

dhw: And whatever non-Adler wishes you formed then, including your wacky, illogical and contradictory theories about evolution and theodicy, have remained rigidly in place, your main defence being that only God can explain them because you can’t.

My views ae logically arrived at, but your screwed up views of God constantly confuse you.

dhw: How do you know [God] is all-good by your own standards of goodness?

DAVID: I take all-goodness as by definition.

dhw: Since nobody knows God, how can anyone possibly define his attributes with any authority? […] would you regard your God’s desire to relieve his and our boredom as “all-good” moral justification for the millions of people who have died or suffered from the evil he allowed to happen (human evil) or caused to happen (he is to blame for the natural evils)?

DAVID: Ancient Hebrew philosophy of Dayenu, it is enough, is the theodistic answer. […]

dhw:“Dayenu” does not explain why an all-good God would deliberately and knowingly give humans the ability to perform rape, murder, holocausts etc., and deliberately create the murderous bugs and other natural disasters for which you blame him. Stop dodging.

No dodge. It means I am satisfied with what God has given us. Not your Scrooge view!