Return to David's theory of evolution PART 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, May 27, 2022, 17:28 (699 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You have objected to the roundabout way humans arrived since we started these discussions. You don't like the 'God's choice' answer, but it is one sensible point. It is a roundabout way but the way that happened. You simply object to God's choice of method, so you know better than God how to do it. I don't.

dhw: I have no objections whatsoever to the roundabout way in which H. sapiens arrived. I have no objections whatsoever to the history of life as we know it. I only object to your assumption that your God’s one and only purpose was to design us and therefore he designed countless life forms etc. that had no connection with us, and he chose to design us in stages although he was perfectly capable of designing species de novo, with no precursors. I have offered logical explanations to explain all these anomalies, but you stick to a theory which “makes sense only to God” and so clearly does not make sense to you.

Your declaration that my theories make no sense to me is the strangest psychiatric analysis I've ever seen. I make perfect sense to me, and if you wish to act as my psychiatrist you must listen to what I tell you about my thinking and accept it for analysis at the start of our counselling sessions. To counter your conclusions: I simply accept the history as what did rationally.

Second article:

DAVID: Again avoiding the point, complex biochemical life must have a designer mind creating its not blind faith, but logical reasoning to jump the chasm, that I finally took.

dhw: Yes, the design argument is a logical reason for “jumping the chasm”, which entails blind faith in the existence of an “an unknown, hidden all-powerful, sourceless mind” etc., as bolded above.

If design is as complex as we demonstrate, that mind must exist, source unknown.

Dragonflies

DAVID: How did this organism evolve with such intricate flight controls for a strange elongated body shape. Only design fits. And to prepare for the usual dhw complaint, dragonflies have many important functions in their ecosystem.

dhw: I agree that design fits. If God exists, it is possible that he endowed the cells of which all life forms are made with the intelligence to design their own means of survival. All life forms have important functions in their ecosystem. This does not mean that all life forms and econiches over the last 3.x billion years, including dragonflies, were “an absolute requirement for the evolutionary process [by which you mean God’s individual design of every life form and econiche] to finally produce humans”.

If complex design exists, a designer mind exists, simple logic.