Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, January 22, 2024, 16:48 (304 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: The only answer I have to your question is God gave us the brains to be in charge, once evolution stopped.

dhw: That does not answer the question why, if his one and only aim was to produce us plus food, he specially designed and then discarded 99.9 out of 100 species that had no connection with his one and only aim. Stop dodging!

Your question is a distortion of evolutionary math. To end with 0.1%, 99.9% died. Evolution happened, and my belief is God did it.

DAVID: The 99.9% objection is to simply ignore it is statistical fact evolution produces such a result. Your view is God should not have evolved us.

dhw: This is the silliest of all your arguments. It is you who try desperately to avoid the fact that the 99.9% had no connection with the purpose you impose on your God, because you cannot find a single reason why he would have designed them! If God exists, of course he used evolution to produce us and every other species. That does not answer the bolded question!

What is silly is your constant distortion of the meaning of evolving. Most have to die!!! God chose to evolve us and provide the Earth with a vast diversity of forms.

Theodicy (now "prejudice").

dhw: 4. The preconceptions I was referring to, and which as usual you try to gloss over, concern your combined, self-contradictory theories of evolution (purpose us, method 99.9% not us), and your insistence that you know all about God’s nature, as well as his purpose and method, although the history of life simply doesn’t fit in with your preconceptions (the problem of theodicy).

DAVID: I've given you the standard answers for theodicy, which is to look at the ratios of good versus bad.

dhw: A non-answer. Evil exists. We not ignore murder and rape just because the majority of people don’t commit murder or rape. Your first-cause, all-knowing God must have known he was creating evil. How does that come to mean that he is all-good?

All evil is secondhand to His good works. Same old answer.

DAVID: Your view of Shapiro's theory is totally overblown in an attempt to show how to get rid of God.

dhw: Another deliberate distortion when you know perfectly well that I accept the possibility that your God may have designed Shapiro’s intelligent cells. I am an agnostic, not an atheist. But you simply cannot bear the thought that your nonsensical combined theories of evolution, which turn your God into a “messy” and “inefficient” designer (your terms), might be wrong.

What is wrong? My theory is based on analyzing God's works assuming God evolved us as His method of creation.

Bacterial spears (transferred from "More Miscellany, as it deals with "prejudice")

dhw: I offer an alternative to your rigid insistence that God controls everything.[...] I don’t even know if God exists, so I’m not sure why you think my thinking is rigid. I try to consider all possible explanations for why and how life has evolved.

DAVID: You do not see your own prejudices.

I've pin-pointed your preconceptions above, at the start of this section. Now please open my eyes to pin-point my prejudices.

Your concocted criticism of the method of creation that resulted in 99.9% loss. It was a success: 0.1% here to populate the Earth.