Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 16:24 (599 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Silly question. Bronto is a tiny part of the entire process.

dhw: But you insist that your God individually designed every single life form, ecosystem, lifestyle, natural wonder etc., and every single one of them is/was a “tiny part” and is/was an “absolute requirement” for sapiens and our food. Since you have no idea why your God had to specifically design each “tiny part”, past and present, extinct and extant, in order to fulfil his one and only purpose, which was to design us and our current food webs, you can only repeat that your theory “makes sense only to God”, i.e. not to you or anyone else.

But to believers it doesn't matter if we can't understand God's personal reasons. It is your problem you create in the way you approach God.

DAVID: I'm sorry I understand the problems of design by a designer you don't. I've done many designs, and although I am not God, I know the equivalent problems secondhand has at my level.

dhw: But your level is not God’s level. You have a single goal, and if you can implement it yourself, you do so directly. For you, no point in getting someone else to do it (= secondhand). You try to apply this logic to God. What doesn’t make sense to you or me is the fact that you impose a single goal on him (designing us plus our food) but find that instead of implementing it directly, he designs countless life forms that have no connection with his goal, and even his goal (sapiens) is designed in stages with features that need to undergo change after change. If you wish to design a house, you do not begin by designing a bicycle, a motor car and an airplane. And you do not provide your house with bits and pieces which you will later change into different bits and pieces. The obvious conclusion: God’s goal and/or methods of achieving his goal can’t have been anything like yours.

I'm discussing one specific: how to plan new species, and I know the secondhand problems. You are trying again to complain about how God evolved us. We have only one known history which I say God created. And I don't question His logic as your poor human reasoning does.

DAVID: I accept it all as God's plan, noting God evolves all His creations for His own reasons.

dhw: What you accept is your own version of your God’s plan, along with all its illogicalities, and your version of events “makes sense only to God”. You dodged my request above, so I’ll make it again. Please tell us which of your theories “make sense only to God” and therefore not to you.

DAVID: What God did is for His reasons. Live with it.

dhw: If he exists, of course I can live with it. What I can’t live with is your theories, which make no sense even to you. I understand your reluctance to answer my question. That speaks for itself.

I accept God's works without question. I try to interpret. And as I interpret, it all makes sense to me.