Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE (Evolution)

by dhw, Wednesday, March 29, 2023, 09:44 (393 days ago) @ David Turell

PART ONE

DAVID: All part of a required screening pattern as evolution requires.

dhw: You forget that evolution did not “require” anything. You insist that your God invented and directed the process of evolution, which means that he obliged himself to create 99% of individual species that were not required for what you believe to have been his one and only purpose.

DAVID: Again you think Darwin. God's evolution had a purpose!!

Of course if he exists he must have had a purpose in inventing the process of evolution! But that does not explain why, if his only purpose was to create us and our food, he proceeded to create 99 out of 100 species that had nothing to do with his purpose. Stop dodging the issues. My alternative theistic theories offer three different, logical explanations for the 99% of life forms that had nothing to do with the evolution of us and our food.

dhw: You remain stuck with your one goal, and the illogicality of an all-powerful God who achieves it through a process you deride as an inefficient, cumbersome mess.

DAVID: Illogical only to you as a non-believer. And don't throw agnosticism at me. It is non-belief with a caveat of slight possibility.

dhw: Stop pretending that my non-belief in your illogical theory of evolution and my proposal of three logical theistic alternatives has anything to do with my agnosticism (which means 50/50 belief/non-belief in God's existence).

DAVID: You clain 50/50 but argue 95/5

This discussion of your illogical theory is based entirely on interpretations of a possible God’s purpose and method. I offer you three alternative, logical explanations for a possible God’s design of life’s history, and apparently that make me 95% atheist! Stop dodging the issues.

The environment

dhw: The question is not what environment/climate are based on, but how much control your God has over them.

DAVID: Certain general conditions must be set by God. The rest are always variable.

The randomly variable ones you accept include such major events as forests turning into deserts and asteroids hitting the Earth. You attribute the 99% “failure rate” to your God’s faulty design, have him then designing new organisms to cope with the new conditions, and then the same process repeats itself until finally he decides to take control of the environment (Cambrian) and design one which will enable him to design the only life forms he really wanted to design in the first place. He then designs our ancestors from scratch, so he needn’t have bothered with all the failures in the first place.

DAVID: Nuts. Something adapted t hrough Snowball Earth. We are here!!!

The something was the 1% of survivors for those of us who believe in common descent. You don’t, though, because you keep harping on about the gaps and arguing that only your God could have designed the new Cambrian species from scratch without any predecessors.