Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Monday, January 29, 2024, 08:49 (297 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: 99.9% of our line are our dead ancestors!!!

dhw: Correct. But 99.9% of all extinct species were not our ancestors or the ancestors of our contemporary species, and they are the problem, because you have no idea why your God would have created and then culled them if his only purpose was to design us to take charge of the other survivors of the 0.1%.

DAVID: WRONG. 0.1% are the surviving result of evolution. That 99.9% went extinct is a result of the culling. The 0.1% are what God wanted on Earth for our use as below:

What is “WRONG”? Yes, the 0.1% are the survivors of evolution. Yes, the extinction of 99.9% was, according to you, the result of your God’s culling. However, if your God’s only purpose was to design the 0.1% which survived the culling, what was the point of him designing the 99.9% of species that had no connection with the 0.1% of species that led to us and our contemporary species? You have no answer because your theory makes no sense.

DAVID: The survivors are God's intended survivors for our use. Our species is a tiny percentage of all living species which are the 0.1% final survivors. We need to only discuss the 0.1%. It is so simple.

dhw: You only want to discuss the 0.1% of today so that you can dodge the absurdity of your theory that he specially and messily and inefficiently designed and culled 99.9 out of 100 extinct species that had no connection with the 0.1% of today, which you say were his sole purpose. […]

DAVID: Your usual complaint about how evolution worked. Raup's only point is in the process 99.9% went extinct to produce the 0.1% surviving today. What is here is what God wanted to create.

You have agreed that the 99.9% of extinct species were NOT the ancestors of the current 0.1% of survivors. If your God is all-purposeful, what WAS here was also what he wanted to create. So why would he have wanted to create 99.9% of species that had no connection with the only species he wanted to create? This is not a complaint about how evolution worked, but about your absurd theories bolded above. STOP DODGING!

DAVID: Your math is impossible to understand!!! God did not create any irrelevant species! All here today is what He wanted to be here. 99.9% is simply the extinction rate to get here. Your muddled brain has totally distorted Raup's point.

Raup’s point is apparently that 99.9% of species went extinct. YOUR point is that your God’s only purpose was the 0.1% of survivors (us plus our contemporaries), but he personally designed and culled the rest, and you have no idea why.

DAVID: Species were not culled out.

Statements by you:
“The 0.1%, of which we are a part, are the survivors of the culling process.”
“Evolution had to cull 99.9% to reach today’s surviving 0.1%. (According to you, your God controlled evolution – the process of evolution did not control God. Ergo God had to cull…)
“What lives today are the survivors of the culling process of evolution.”
And yesterday (bolded above): “That 99.9% went extinct is a result of the culling.”

How do those statements come to mean that species were not culled out? Your “muddled brain” keeps contradicting itself, so please stop it.

DAVID: The 99.9% are ancestors of all the existing species created as the 0.1% here today. If you could come to understand that, we could move on.

You have explicitly agreed that the 99.9% were NOT ancestors of the 0.1% here today!
Jan 2nd: dhw: Only the 0.1% led to current forms.
DAVID: We agree. And Jan 9th: I am not disagreeing.
Jan. 11th: dhw: Do you believe that we and our food are directly descended from 99.9% of all creatures that ever lived?
DAVID: No. From the 0.1% surviving.
Jan 10th, in one of your muddled posts: Dinosaurs are 100% dead. They might be the ancestors of birds, but that is disputed now.
Which means it’s possible that not even 0.1% of dinosaurs were the ancestors of current species!

Yes, 99.9% of our ancestors are dead. No, 99% of all species that ever lived were NOT the ancestors of us and our contemporaries. Only 0.1% of them were our ancestors, as you have agreed over and over again. Until you stop contradicting yourself, and dodging the issue (your illogical combination of theories concerning what you call your God’s messy, cumbersome and inefficient design), it will be impossible to move on.