Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, March 12, 2022, 08:17 (985 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: I've fully explained how I view God's evolution. The huge branching leads to us. We can trace back to the roots in Archaea. The rest is ecosystems to feed us and everyone else. Your view beggars belief.

dhw: You keep agreeing that PAST food was for the PAST, and extinct life has no role to play in current life, and then you try to wriggle out of your agreement with obfuscations. Just stick with your confession that you have no idea why your God would have deliberately designed all the life forms and econiches that had no connection with his one and only goal (humans plus food), and stop prolonging the agony!

DAVID: It is true I have no idea why God chose His evolution method, but I have every right to interpret it as I do. I see evolution as a whole process and you split it into unrelated parts.

I see both: all life forms are descended from the first cells = whole. Life forms split into branches that had no connection with each other = split. You have no idea why your God would have chosen the evolution method you impose on him. Please don’t confuse your theory with fact.

Transferred from “Introducing the brain”:

DAVID: I find my view of my God as totally comprehensible. I find your god as totally unrecognizable. So our differences are huge.

dhw: Your humanized guesses [..] all seem comprehensible to me. Why do you think they denote differences?

DAVID: The implied personalities as shown by stated God thoughts/desires are obviously very far apart.

dhw: The humanized guesses “as shown” were your own: your God’s enjoyment, interest, thought patterns, emotions and logic like ours, and even a desire for admiration from and relations with humans. I’m sorry to hear that you are very far apart from your own guesses.

DAVID: We are discussing both Gods and my statement refers to yours as different from mine.

Which of the above humanized guesses are different from yours?

dhw: It’s clear that religious folk have tried to take over ID, just as it’s clear that there are ID-ers who wish to avoid all such diversions from their scientific work.

DAVID: Again, my beliefs about ID ae quite correct. The very religious folks ae allowed to sneak in their strong religious bias but only in commentaries, not articles or research. The ID godfathers set up the no-god rules at the beginning:

This is another way of saying what I have just said above, but it is totally irrelevant to our dispute, which is whether, as you have claimed, ID-ers support your belief that God designed every single extinct life form, lifestyle, econiche and natural wonder as preparation for humans and their food, i.e. as “part of the goal of evolving [= design] humans” and their food.

DAVID: ID is not as you have obviously imagined it to be.

It is exactly as I have imagined it to be, but that is not the issue anyway. See the bold above.