Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Wednesday, November 23, 2022, 17:29 (729 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Of course you have the same right. That is not the issue. You keep telling me that your theory makes sense to you, and in the same breath you tell me that you do not and cannot know your God’s reasons for choosing such an illogical way of fulfilling his goal. Your theory “makes perfect sense to Him”, not to you! Please stop dodging!

I've told you you don't know how to think about God as I do. I don't need to know His reasons for His actions to accept Him and his works. You don't believe in Him and so your 'illogical way' comment is your confused human criticism of God's choice of action. I simply accept He chose to evolve us.

dhw: ... We only know of one evolution of life! If your God exists, he makes the rules, so you have him shackling himself by some obscure law of his own making: “No matter what thou wishest, thou shalt design dead ends.”

A total non-sequitur: if He makes the rules, He also makes the choice to evolve!!! All evolution must have dead ends or nothing evolves!!!

dhw: [My alternative theories] would even explain another of your contradictions: your belief that he designed Cambrian species which had no predecessors and from which we and our food supplies are directly descended, although you also say that we are descended from Archaea and all the dead ends that preceded the Cambrian.

DAVID: And again (!) a repetition of your misunderstanding of a designer God who can create gaps at will.

dw: Of course he can, and that is why you can’t understand why he chose to evolve us plus all the dead ends instead of creating us directly, and why you tie yourself in knots to explain the above contradiction.....

Your human choice for direct creation did not happen!! Therefore, God chose to evolve us. Pure logic.

DAVID: Your hilarious complaint about the designed Cambrian gap shows your total lack of understanding a designer God. The gap is the prime example of the need for a designing mind. In his own say Darwin knew it.

dhw: Yes, the arrival of new species without any predecessors, just like the complexities of all life forms, provides a strong case for a designing mind. No issue there. But unfortunately for you, if he designed us and our food from scratch, it knocks on the head your rigid belief that he specially designed every single pre-Cambrian life form as an absolute requirement for us and our food.

A designing mind can do anything it wishes. It evolved us from Archaea. That is known history, assuming the mind in action as I do.

DAVID: And you have misunderstood my wish to stop this ping-pong discussion. It is endless repetition of our positions.

dhw: It is also my wish, but so long as you continue to hammer home your message that your God individually designed every life form, ecosystem, lifestyle, strategy, natural wonder etc., and that every extinct, dead-end life form etc. was necessary for the design of us and our food, it will be impossible to stop. For more of your dodges see “More miscellany”.

My God doesn't dodge, and I will continue to advertise Him here.