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by David Turell , Friday, October 07, 2022, 15:21 (776 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: God decides what is required for each stage of his designed evolution. That is what you do not understand about God!!! God is not frivolous!!

dhw: You have just complained that my view of evolution is “all dead ends”, and I have pointed out that this is a silly distortion. See the bold above. I don’t know where you get the idea of “frivolousness” from, but I have to say I find it hard to take your argument seriously. If God’s one and only purpose was to design sapiens plus our food, how can all the dead ends which did not lead to us and our food have been required in order to fulfil his purpose? You don’t know. Your theory “makes sense only to God”. So please stop pretending that you understand God!

I have explained dead ends as no longer necessary ecosystems. I have explained God produces only what he feels is necessary. I view humans as a necessary goal. So I feel I do understand God. I can't answer for your confusion.

DAVID: I am arguing at the God level. You are not.

dhw:n I assume that his actions will logically follow on from his purpose. Your theory shows him performing countless actions that do not follow on from his purpose. How does that put you “at the God level”?

What 'follows on' are God's decisions to create. Not logical to your human reasoning.

DAVID: Despite all your illogic, God designed what He knew He had to do and we are here.

dhw: You said new forms appeared from dead ends! And then you tell me I’m illogical! I assume he did what he wanted to do, and according to you, he designed countless dead-end life forms that were here and had no connection with us or our food. So why did he “have to” design them? If he did design them, and if he is not incompetent, then maybe he was experimenting, or maybe he had a purpose other than to design us and our food. Why is that illogical?

Again, your weak human analysis of God. A God conducted designed evolution led to us though all the left-behind dead ends. All fulfilled God's purpose.

Microbiome importance

QUOTE: Microbial life was the first to inhabit our planet and will probably be the last.

DAVID: the article is filled with examples of how to improve this basic diversity at the bottom of our Earth's primary ecosystem. It came from God's dead ends, despite dhw's objections to dead ends as useless. He needs a big re-think.

dhw: The vital importance of microbial life is beyond dispute, but a dead end refers to something that comes to an end and leads nowhere. A life form that is still alive, is of vital importance to all other forms of life, and will probably remain alive until there is no other life left on this planet, is not a dead end! Please stop making a mockery of language!

DAVID: What you are doing is making a mockery of God's necessary designs.

dhw: There is no mockery on my part. I acknowledge the vital importance of microbial life, and whether God designed it or not, it is still alive, is still of vital importance, and so it is not a dead end! Look again at your statement above, now bolded. Better still, take it back.

The definition of evolution notes the passage of organisms as new ones appear. Your argument is a distortion of the process.