Return to David's theory of evolution PART TWO (Evolution)

by David Turell , Wednesday, March 29, 2023, 01:50 (392 days ago) @ dhw

PART TWO

Cyclones

QUOTE: "'These blooms could be an integral part of the local marine ecosystems of our Pacific neighbours supporting higher food chains."

DAVID: These major events are not major enough for God to exert controls. They are built in to happen randomly. They do not create such a disturbance that it makes God have 'luck' in trying to design evolutionary advances. "Luck" is dhw's illogical invention. Snowball Earth destroys his point.

So he leaves integral parts of some ecosytems to luck, does he? According to you, among other uncontrolled major events affecting speciation are forests turning into deserts and asteroids causing mass extinctions. All luck, but you can't understand why "dhw somehow thinks luck is involved!" “Trying to design evolutionary advances” sounds just like experimentation to me, and the destruction of 99% by forces beyond his control sounds very much like the cause of what you once called “failed experiments” – because those designs did not lead to us and our food. You disown the expression, but it continues to explain why you call his method messy, inefficient and cumbersome.

What you call experimentation, I see as purposeful designs. You are overwhelmed by your conceived beloved humanized weak God who must experiment to develop anything.

Supernovas and biodiversity

DAVID: If you believe God chose to evolve us, it makes perfect sense. God may have other ancillary goals. I've never said 'none'.

dhw: It does not make sense that an all-powerful God would choose to design 99 irrelevant life forms out of 100. So I have asked you what other purpose he might have had for designing them. You won’t tell us, because you know that they might turn out to support theories which are different from yours. Stop dodging.

Preposterous!! I'm not hiding behind God theories, other than cerating Humans because nothing else is obvious.
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Common descent

DAVID: […] God's handling of evolution was magnificent. He produced our brain!!

dhw: More language games: a system which you describe as an inefficient and cumbersome mess is magnificent. The three alternatives I have offered you also resulted in the human brain, but two of them were efficient experiments that produced no mess at all.

DAVID: A real 'theistic' God does not need experimentation. He knows what He wants to produce and produces it directly.

dhw: Except that he did NOT directly produce what you believe to have been his one and only purpose. You never stop contradicting yourself.

No contradiction. God's choice of evolution to produce us was purposeful.