Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, May 03, 2022, 18:44 (724 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Moving in “totally new directions” is not minor modification! Are you now withdrawing your comment about the dinosaur extinction?

DAVID: We do not know if Chixculub was directed or accidental.

dhw: If it was directed, then your God moved off in a “totally new direction”. If it was an accident, then your God was not in control. Why would he specially design the dinosaurs and then, through sheer chance, move off in a “totally new direction”? Either way, your God changed or was forced to change direction in pursuit of what you believe to have been his one and only goal.

Your problem is you want exact info about God's reasoning. NOT AVAILABLE! Dinosaurs were complex new forms when they arrived. The next step to mammals was waiting in the wings. They were the next giant step. I see progression, not your constant confusion about God. Why can't yo9u simply accept God does as what God wants to do, and often the explanation at our level of thought is not clear.

Gaps by design

DAVID: My theory makes perfect sense to me, but not to you. God, in total control, can form an evolutionary process of His own design, not related to Darwinism which constantly infects your illogical thought. This type of 'common descent' is not Darwin's type. It has huge gaps when the precursor biochemical processes are ready for a gap. The gaps are jumps in body form (phenotypes). The gaps in the fossil record were well-recognized years ago by Gould!!!

dhw: I am not disputing that there are gaps in the fossil record! Stop dodging! Your explanation of the gaps is that your God directly designed new species which had no precursors and from which, in the case of the Cambrian, we humans are descended. This can only mean that according to you there is no direct line from bacteria to humans! And if God was perfectly capable of directly designing new species with no precursors, and if his one and only aim was to design us and our food, why would he not have designed us directly? Your answer, I repeat: “What I cannot explain is why God chose evolution over direct creation. Why can’t you accept that explanation?” Coupled with: “God makes sense only to Himself”, which denotes that your theory does not make sense to you.

What human can know what another human thinks. Solipsism. You try to enter my brain and tell me I don't make sense to myself. Ridiculous thinking! If you could let yourself think about God and His personage as I do, you would understand. But your brain is frozen in doubt and confusion. Any ID'er thinks as I do. So did Adler.

dhw: If a theory does not make sense to you, then perhaps you should consider alternatives that do make sense to you. In our discussion above, you agree that your God makes adjustments as he goes along, even to the extent of going in “totally new directions”. This could hardly be a clearer endorsement of the theory that he was experimenting, or that he kept getting new ideas as he went along.

DAVID: Back to your treasured human form of God who is wandering along. Any God wo can create our universe, knows exactly what He is doing.

dhw: You have not explained his adjustments and his total change of direction.

I am not an authority on God's thinking/reasoning, much as you wish me to be

dhw: On the other hand, if he knows what he is doing, the higgledy-piggledy bush of life forms and econiches unrelated to humans can be explained by his deliberately creating a free-for-all, along with the option to dabble if he felt like it. You have agreed that all my theories provide logical theistic explanations for the history of life as we know it. The only theory you cannot make sense of is your own.

See above. Your brain is a brick wall of confusion. Read 'How to Think About God'. I can mail you my copy, as they are out of print and mine is used one.