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by dhw, Friday, February 24, 2023, 09:22 (636 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: You have proposed a theory that makes your God into an inefficient blunderer, and told me to ask him why he chose to be an inefficient blunderer, thereby admitting that you can find no justification for your theory. And then you ask me not to use the derogatory terms you have used to describe your vision of him.

DAVID: God is not a blunderer. Your conclusion has no basis since God used a messy system to produce humans successfully. Try this view: God was able to overcome the imperfections of living evolution through His design abilities.

This is getting more and more absurd. According to you, the imperfections of living evolution were all of your God’s making! “God ran evolution. He is responsible for all its warts.” It is you who insist that 99% of his designs were mistakes, failed experiments, wrong choices, and his method of achieving his goal was “inefficient” and “cumbersome”. I’m quoting you! If he really designed every life form individually (as in my first two alternatives, and as opposed to the free-for-all), your version has him succeeding in spite of his inefficiency, not because of it!

DAVID: Dead ends are natural parts of an evolutionary process.

You have told us that dead ends occurred in our evolutionary process because of your God’s faulty designs. The human examples you gave, like language, telescopes and successful companies, were all built on successes, not on dead ends! A successful company does not evolve from a company that has gone bankrupt. Humans (and our food) did not evolve from the brontosaurus. Please stop pretending that what you call your God’s mistakes were natural. He created them!

DAVID: Failure to survive allows God to evolve the 1% that became what exists today as a set of huge and small ecosystems, most of which supplies our food.

dhw: Now what are you saying? That your God could not have designed the 1% of survivors if he hadn’t designed the 99% per cent that didn’t survive? [We’ll skip the lovely house analogy, since it illustrates the point you now make:)

DAVID: The 99.9% loss is the way room is made for the best new forms.

So your God specially designed all his mistakes and failed experiments in order to get rid of them, because he knew even before he designed them that they were no use and would simply clutter up the place. Crazier and crazier!