Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Sunday, January 30, 2022, 16:17 (815 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: How long will it take you to realize Adler's thoughts and mine are one and the same. Your bold is totally irrational. That God chose to evolve us is a simple obvious concept.

dhw: The bold which you left out as usual was:”…his one and only goal was to design humans plus food. You also say he individually designed countless species that had no connection with humans.” You are right. The theory that an all-powerful God would reach his one and only goal by designing countless species that had no connection with his one and only goal is totally irrational, which is why you say you can’t explain it and I should go and ask God.

Your bold is totally irrational if you simply accept that God chose to evolve us from bacteria. We are His endpoint.

Hibernation

DAVID: I read those works and come back to the same point. From the outside we see cells acting intelligently. Now interpretation rakes over. Intelligent or intelligent design. My choice as you know is the latter.

dhw: Yes, it is a matter of interpretation, but not “intelligent or intelligent design”! Both theories entail intelligent design. You have tried to dismiss intelligent design by intelligent cells on the grounds that no modern scientists agree that cells can be intelligent. Firstly, this is not true, and secondly you agree that it’s a 50/50 matter of interpretation, which is hardly grounds for rejecting the theory.

Each of us has the right to a choice based on logical evidence.

Life’s required metals
DAVID: God goes as far as He has to in designing.

dhw: I like it. According to you, he has to design everything. I propose that he only has to design the mechanism that enables cell communities to do their own designing. Same God, but at least my proposal explains the higgledy-piggledy bush!

DAVID: Without the bush, not enough food for all. My God knows what He is required to create.

dhw: Not again, please! You have agreed explicitly that past bushes were for past life forms and extinct life has no role to play in the present. ALL life forms need food, but that does not mean that all life forms and foods were designed for the sole purpose of designing one life form (us) and our food.

DAVID: It means exactly that to me.

dhw: I know. And it makes no sense to claim that species and their food supplies which had no connection with humans were specially designed for the sole purpose of specially designing humans and their food supplies.

All part of an evolutionary process with early steps leading to later steps in a continuum.