Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, March 27, 2023, 20:24 (605 days ago) @ David Turell

: dhw: You never stop dodging. The point is not that your God had bad luck! Organisms had bad luck because his design did not allow them to adapt to new conditions. Since he had no control over conditions, he relied on luck to provide him with the 1% that did survive, and this process was repeated with every change, each of which limited his scope for design. I also said he must have relied on luck to provide the conditions enabling him to design the only organisms he wanted to design, but at that point you modified your theory, because suddenly he did control the environment by organizing an extra supply of oxygen (the Cambrian).

DAVID: Environment/climate is based on Earth's position from the sun, sunspots, Earth's tilt, moon's gravitational effects, general fixed repeated patterns like El Nino/ La Nina in the Pacific. Oxygen is a similar general fixed condition for the environment/climate. Of course, God made those adjustments when indicated. After all, He is the creator. Snowball Earth tells us God can design for any eventuality. Your usual dodge of a complaint is a molehill, not a mountain.

A new study for this discussion:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/03/230322190942.htm

"Dr Pete Russell, of the University of Otago's Department of Marine Science, and Dr Christopher Horvat, of the University of Auckland's Department of Physics, have published a study on the oceanic biological effect of Cyclone Oma which passed near Vanuatu in 2019.

"'While Oma was a relatively benign cyclone, it produced a massive phytoplankton bloom in its wake -- the single most abnormal event in the history of South Pacific chlorophyll measurements," Dr Russell says.

"'Such an extreme event can produce a large amount of biomass in a part of the ocean that is typically a biological desert. We don't yet know about the fate of this biomass, but one possibility is that it could end up on the bottom of the ocean, sequestering carbon."

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"'Cyclones are one of the mechanisms that dissipate heat from the tropics. Warming oceans mean more heat to dissipate. This means more intense storms and perhaps longer storm seasons resulting in more storms.

"'By examining sediment cores from the last inter-glacial period, we may get a heads up on what cyclone activity to expect with ocean temperatures 1+ degrees higher than today," Dr Russell says.

"The pair found if a storm hovers above a patch of ocean long enough, physical interactions between the cyclone winds and ocean will cause water to rise near its eye, bringing nutrient rich water to the surface which seeds a phytoplankton bloom.

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"'These cyclones can do amazing things -- other than have strong winds, they can also dramatically affect the plants and animals living in the upper ocean and change the cycling of carbon by leading to blooms.

"'Along with these bloom events in the open ocean, cyclone activity results in both coastal upwelling and runoff from the land that also deliver nutrients into the photic zone, generating blooms. These blooms could be an integral part of the local marine ecosystems of our Pacific neighbours supporting higher food chains," he says."

These major events are not major enough for God to exert controls. They are built in to happen randomly. They do not create such a disturbance that it makes God have 'luck' in trying to design evolutionary advances. "Luck" is dhw's illogical invention. Snowball Earth destroys his point.