Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Thursday, December 21, 2023, 16:31 (336 days ago) @ dhw
edited by David Turell, Thursday, December 21, 2023, 16:52

DAVID: There is only one method which culls 99.9%. All you present is alternative

DAVID: That God would be interested in His creations is reasonable as are our logical thought patterns similar to God's. Why He chose to evolve us is for His unknown reasons to us.

dhw: For the thousandth time, the absurdity of your theory is not that he chose to evolve us, but that according to you he chose to design and cull 99.9 out of 100 species that were irrelevant to his one and only purpose of designing us and our food. Stop dodging!

Your millionth dodge is to distort history. Assuming God exists and creates reality, evolution was His method of producing humans. Humans are now in charge and the whole of Earth's living forms can be used by humans. Your absurd proposal is He should have only have evolved us and not the rest?

DAVID: Nothing God evolved was irrelevant to His goals. Humans dominate the Earth and use all of it.

dhw: Why have you referred to “goals”, when you insist that he only had one? 99.9% of what he designed was irrelevant to us and our food. The fact that we are dominant and use the current bush does not explain why your God would have designed the millions of organisms and bushes that preceded us and our bush, since only 0.1% of them evolved into us and our bush. Stop dodging!

Do you know of another form of evolution? It takes time and is a very slow way compared to direct evolution of a desired form, which you seem to prefer. The historical record of evolution resulted in 99.9% disappearance of predecessors to reach the current living forms. Because I theorize humans were God's major goal you complain and distort the whole picture of evolution. Evolution remains the same with or without a 'goal' for God.

DAVID: Stop attacking my God. I like Him just as He is. What you view is a myopic contortion of my theology.

dhw: You know perfectly well that I’m not attacking your God but I’m attacking your illogical theories of evolution, for which you admit you can find no possible reason. […]

DAVID: I can't let you make a mockery of God. with your weird humanizing attempts.

dhw: What is the “myopic contortion”? Are you denying the bolded theory which mocks your God’s messy, cumbersome, inefficient designing method?

DAVID: You first pointed out evolution was inefficient compared to direct creation. I agree.

dhw: It’s only inefficient if you insist that we (plus food) were your God’s only purpose and that he was perfectly capable of creating us directly but instead chose to design and cull the 99.9% of irrelevant life forms. What is the “myopic contortion”? Please stop all this dodging.

Humans were such an unexpected result from natural evolution, Adler used the point to prove God existed. If a highly respected philosopher of religion chose this position, I have great support for my theology. Humans were God's goal in evolution. Whatever else God's evolution produced was for humans to use.