Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, May 06, 2022, 21:14 (930 days ago) @ dhw

Chixculub

DAVID: I can't understand why you don't realize after all these years of battle, that is just the exact way I think about God. It very similar to the way many folks (behind the scenes at the ID convention) think about God and His works. It means your thoughts about how to think about God are different than mine. Those quotes of mine are exact!!!

dhw: It is not a question of the way you think about God! Why do you keep hiding behind these vague generalisations? The issue is your theory of evolution, i.e. your belief that your God’s one and only purpose was to design H. sapiens and our food supply, and yet (a) he individually designed countless species and food bushes that did not lead to H. sapiens, and (b) in spite of his all-powerfulness and ability to design species directly without precursors, he chose to design H. sapiens – his sole purpose -in stages.

You refuse to accept what I accept. God knows what He wishes to do and how to do it. You simply object to accepting the evidence from history. Your viewing of God is not how I view God. You raised this weird view years ago, and you are just as nutty in my view. You put human logic against God's.

DAVID: The bush has many goals along the way to finally humans.

dhw: This is encouraging news. Apart from the obvious fact that all life forms have to eat, please tell us some of these other goals. I wonder if they might possibly include the idea that because, as you have agreed, he enjoys creating and is interested in his creations, one of his goals might have been to create things he would be interested in watching. I wait in suspense for more details.

No suspense as you are back to humanizing God because He needs 'interests' to watch! Not my view of god!

DAVID: Again, your twisted interpretation. Dinosaurs were around for a great length of time, so it must be obvious they played a major role.

dhw: A major role in what? Establishing the basis for mammals to move forward

DAVID: When God decide to move on He did. No change of mind I assume, just a planned shift to mammals.

dhw: Why do you assume this, when you don’t even know if Chixculub was a deliberate action or an accident? Wouldn’t a “totally new direction” following an unplanned accident suggest a change of mind, and again, why bother designing the dinosaurs if all he wanted right from the start was H. sapiens?

I'll stick with planning for mammals.

DAVID: They [mammals] had developed as small animals for some length of time during dinosaurs and were now ready to expand into their current very important role.

dhw: Yes, they had developed during the era of the dinosaurs, and when the dinosaurs died out they became dominant. I don’t know how this proves that your God’s one and only purpose was to design H. sapiens and the dinosaurs were “part of THE goal etc.” But I’m looking forward to hearing what other goals your God may have had.

There were obvious stepwise goals all along the way to humans, the final goal.