Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Wednesday, November 02, 2022, 14:21 (750 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID:The dead ends we have discussed are ecosystems that supplied necessary food at the time of their existence not what I have bolded above.

dhw: If I’ve understood you correctly, you are once more agreeing that the dead ends had nothing to do with your God’s one and only purpose, which was to design us and our food supplies, in contrast to other times in this discussion when you have insisted that every one was an “”absolute requirement” for us and our food. We are making progress, at least until you change your mind again.

DAVID: Evolution could not have continued without them.

dhw: Why not? According to you, the evolution of us and our food supplies did not begin until the
Cambrian, and the relevant species arrived without any predecessors, after which they "evolved" into us and our food (plus lots more dead ends)!

Evolution started before the Cambrian.

DAVID: All evolutionary processes have dead ends. God produced His designed evolution to contain what He wished.

dhw: How many evolutions of life do you know about? Of course if God exists he would have designed what he wished to design. What doesn’t make sense is that according to you, he only wished to design the life forms and foods which began during the Cambrian, and even then he designed organisms and foods which did not lead to us and our food! But if you agree that we and our food were NOT his one and only purpose (you frequently mention plural purposes – see under “toxoplasma” on the other thread – only to revert back to preparations for us and our food), then new windows will open to let in a bit more light on the actual history of life on Earth and a possible God’s other possible purposes and methods.

DAVID: […] all the Cambrian-preceding design went into developing advanced biochemical systems and evolving the Earth, such as land continents and more oxygen.

dhw: Why did he have to develop advanced biochemical systems if his sole purpose was to design us and our food and he began that process by designing the initial advanced forms from scratch, without any predecessors? And why, even then, did he have to design the brontosaurus before designing us and our ancestors? And if he was unable to design us and our food supplies until he’d fiddled with continents and different amounts of oxygen, why didn’t he just wait until they were ready? Same again: why design all the unnecessary dead end life forms and ecosystems before and even after the Cambrian?

Simple usual answer: remember, my theory is 'God decided to evolve humans from Archaea?

DAVID: We can end by agreeing with this piece of your statement: "If God exists, I see this constantly changing history as the result of what he wanted, and I assume that he would not have been forced to do anything he didn’t want to do." Our further views differ widely. So be it.

dhw: It remains to be seen whether you can refrain from repeating your illogical theories! (Certain items under “More miscellany” suggest that you can’t or won’t!)

DAVID: I'm here to represent God with God theories you don't accept.

dhw: I’m here to represent those of us who are unable to fix on any explanation of life’s major mysteries, and to examine the reasonableness of whatever explanations are on offer. If I may say so, you are doing a great job representing the theory that there is/was a designer (a possible God), but you are tying yourself in knots with your theories about his purpose and methods of achieving that purpose!

Same answer. With God is charge, He chose to evolve us from Archaea, well before the Cambrian gap aoppeard.