Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Saturday, August 27, 2022, 16:02 (817 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: All of the branches from the beginning lead to the present. Why is that forgotten??? With God's designs all the branches arrived here producing us and a hugh bush of ecosystems but in trouble (see the entries).

dhw: We and our huge bush of ecosystems descend from past life forms and past ecosystems, but in the course of history, many of the branches have led to extinction and NOT to humans and our food. Why is that forgotten? Ecosystems throughout history have got into trouble. Otherwise none of them would have become extinct. What has that got to do with your illogical theories of evolution?

The huge food webs as shown in those entries have degraded under our control, but were originally precisely designed for us:

https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/at-phys-org-reconstructing-ice-age-diets...

"Research published this week in Science offers the clearest picture yet of the reverberating consequences of land mammal declines on food webs over the past 130,000 years. It’s not a pretty picture."

https://phys.org/news/2022-08-reconstructing-ice-age-diets-reveals.html

"While about 6% of land mammals have gone extinct in that time, we estimate that more than 50% of mammal food web links have disappeared," said ecologist Evan Fricke, lead author of the study. "And the mammals most likely to decline, both in the past and now, are key for mammal food web complexity."

DAVID: dhw makes slight of the necessary food supply in His constant illogical complaint. God knew the burgeoning human population had to have enough food. Look at this new analysis of our new food supply crisis:

QUOTES: "Food webs influence ecosystem diversity and functioning. Contemporary defaunation has reduced food web complexity, […] Food webs underwent steep regional declines in complexity through loss of food web links after the arrival and expansion of human populations."

DAVID: Same old story. All of the giant bush of evolution is a food supply for the huge human population. And all we do is unthinkingly damage it. And dhw distorts the importance of it.

dhw: The PAST bushes of evolution were not ALL a food supply for the huge human population, which did not even exist for 3.X billion years. But yes, we humans are unthinkingly damaging the current bush. As above, your dodges are become embarrassing.

DAViD: I am constantly perplexed at how you distort my quotes meanings. All a debating ploy?

dhw: I am totally perplexed by your belief that ALL extinct bushes and life forms over 3.X billion years were specially designed as an “absolute requirement” for the special design of us and our food. Your assertion that I distort the importance of the damage we are causing to our own ecosystems is just plain daft!

Not daft as the studies show, not by IDer's, but in Science Mag!!! Quoted in Phys. Org. Your distortion is in not recognizing the food web originally designed for us is damaged. The key is it was there, I say by God's design. The web came from past evolution!!!

dhw: […] you actually agree with me that your God wouldn’t create if he didn’t enjoy creating, and you are equally certain that he is interested in his creations. And so I find it incomprehensible that you should consider it impossible that he might create BECAUSE he enjoys creating and BECAUSE he wants to create things he will find interesting.

DAVID: Self-interesting aspects of His creations do not drive my form of my God's personality.

dhw: And yet you are sure he "enjoys" and is "interested". But I know you reject any interpretation that differs from your own. That does not make your guesses any more valid than mine.

DAVID: I simply think my form of God comports with what I was taught in "How to think about God".

dhw: So your teacher taught you that God enjoys creating and is interested in his creations, but could not possibly have created life because he wanted to enjoy creating things that would interest him. And may I ask where your teacher got his information from?

Adler made the one observation, as a philosopher of religion, the probability God cares about us is 50/50%. The above is your imagination gone wild.