Return to David's theory of evolution PART 1 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, July 05, 2022, 17:46 (870 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I do not have three theories. They are your strange divisions. God chose to evolve us by designing stages of life leading to us as the endpoint. His design method does not require precursors. After all He knew how to invent life. One theory, design theory.

dhw: You are making a mockery of this discussion. If your God exists, then of course he designed evolution. The discussion concerns why and how he designed it, and each of the above is a separate theory. You admit that you cannot explain their combination, which “makes sense only to God”. Please stop dodging!

For me the theories are not separate but involve one designing God choosing His methods for His own reasons. I have never understood your thinking.

DAVID: His logic is obviously not your logic, and I fully accept His logic from His own reasoning.

dhw: How can you fully accept his logic when you don’t know what it is?

DAVID: You seem to miss the point, no one can know God's logic! If you knew it would you leave agnosticism?

dhw: If he exists, no one can know his purpose either, and no one knows how evolution works. So please stop pretending that you know both, and that your theories make sense to you although they make sense only to God. I would leave agnosticism if I was convinced that God exists. And then I would challenge your absurdly illogical combination of evolutionary theories just as I do now.

As above, only absurd to you. I am assured of my views by the ID folks with my thinking.

dhw: What gives you the authority to claim that he has your illogical human thought processes (which make no sense to you) rather than my logical ones?

God makes perfect sense to me, as I recognize God has His reasons for His methodology. I do not need to know them, as you do.

Cellular intelligence

DAVID: I understand biochemistry equally to your self-chosen experts who happen to fit your rigid Darwinian prejudices.

dhw: If you are their equal, then they are your equal, 50/50. The theory of cellular intelligence has nothing to do with “rigid Darwinian prejudices”...I have no idea why you see my theory as prejudice, while you apparently regard your 3.8-billion-year old book of divine instructions, or non-stop ad hoc divine dabbling, as objective science.

Not objective science, but an interpretation of how God might have created His form of designed evolution.

Human only networks

DAVID: The study only shows us how the brain uses its plasticity, a process no other organ has or needs.

dhw: Once again, you don’t seem to realize that the brain is a community of cells. It is therefore cells that use their plasticity, which is not confined to the brain. If some cells did not have plasticity, evolution would never have happened.

DAVID: Nice try! The brain requires this ability. You couldn't learn anything if it didn't.

dhw: I am not denying that the brain cells have this ability!

DAVID: Interesting tortured twist of evolutionary fact: Cells do not have plasticity, only neuron networks do.

dhw: Stem cells can take on any form, but in any case neurons are cells, and their networks cover the whole body, not just the brain! How could evolution have taken place if these cellular networks did not have the ability to change?

Once again you run off point. The plasticity of the brain is required so it can learn to handle new uses. You want to again introduce your brilliant cell committees wherever you can. Cell networks are changed in speciation. There is no proof the cells do it themselves.