Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Friday, November 04, 2022, 12:25 (748 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Evolution started before the Cambrian.

dhw: Of course it did! But according to your nonsensical theories, OUR evolution plus that of OUR food supply began in the Cambrian, when your God designed all the necessary phyla WITHOUT PREDECESSORS, although we and our food supplies are supposed by you to have been his one and only purpose from the very beginning! […]

DAVID: Preceding evolution to the Cambrian gap developed the necessary underlying biochemical systems to support the multi organ Cambrians. Also, the Earth's climate was evolving more oxygen in the atmosphere, as previously presented. Evolution is not stop and go but a continuous process of development from the past.

I agree. That is why it is illogical to claim that your all-powerful God’s one and only purpose from the very beginning was to design us and our food supply, and yet he “had to” to design countless life forms and ecosystems both before and after the Cambrian that had no connection with us and our food supply. Your "continuous development" leads to dead ends even after the Cambrian (e.g our friend the brontosaurus), and the only species relevant to us and our food came out of the blue after 3.X billion years' worth of what you therefore believe were also dead ends, since none of them were our predecessors.

dhw: In one breath you tell us that evolution is a continuous process, and in the next breath you announce that there are “gaps” (the Cambrian) when your God started it all afresh.

DAVID: The Cambrian gap was first noted by your beloved Darwin.

That does not explain the contradictions in your theory.

DAVID: I'm here to represent God with God theories you don't accept.

dhw: I’m here to represent those of us who are unable to fix on any explanation of life’s major mysteries, and to examine the reasonableness of whatever explanations are on offer. If I may say so, you are doing a great job representing the theory that there is/was a designer (a possible God), but you are tying yourself in knots with your theories about his purpose and methods of achieving that purpose!

DAVID: Same answer. With God is charge, He chose to evolve us from Archaea, well before the Cambrian gap appeared.

dhw: Same answer. If your God exists, according to you he chose to evolve us and our food supply from species which he designed WITHOUT PREDECESSORS. [Addendum: so according to you, we could not have evolved from Archaea.]

DAVID: With God as designer no predecessors needed!!! That is the WHOLE point of this discussion. You cannot invert it to your purposes.

It is indeed the whole point! In one breath you tell us that all the dead ends were needed, and in the next breath you tell us they weren’t needed! We evolved from Archaea, but we didn't evolve from Archaea!