Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, October 08, 2022, 07:56 (559 days ago) @ David Turell

The following question continues to remain unanswered, and so I’ll apologize in advance for repeating it after every non-answer!

dhw: […] If God’s one and only purpose was to design sapiens plus our food, how can all the dead ends which did not lead to us and our food have been required in order to fulfil his purpose? You don’t know. Your theory “makes sense only to God”. So please stop pretending that you understand God!

DAVID: I have explained dead ends as no longer necessary ecosystems. I have explained God produces only what he feels is necessary. I view humans as a necessary goal. So I feel I do understand God. I can't answer for your confusion.

1) Dead-end ecosystems were only “necessary” for the organisms which lived within them and depended on them! 2) If God’s only purpose (as you claim) was to produce sapiens plus food, why would he have felt it was “necessary” for him to design dead ends which did not lead to (i.e. were not “necessary” for) sapiens plus food? 3) What are humans “necessary” for?

DAVID: I am arguing at the God level. You are not.

dhw: I assume that his actions will logically follow on from his purpose. Your theory shows him performing countless actions that do not follow on from his purpose. How does that put you “at the God level”?

DAVID: What 'follows on' are God's decisions to create. Not logical to your human reasoning.
And:
DAVID: A God conducted designed evolution led to us though all the left-behind dead ends. All fulfilled God's purpose.

If your God’s one and only purpose was to design us plus food, how can it have been logical for him to design countless life forms and ecosystems that did not lead to us plus food? Left-behind dead ends did not lead to us plus food! By definition, dead ends lead nowhere. You are still playing silly word games.

Microbiome importance

QUOTE: Microbial life was the first to inhabit our planet and will probably be the last.

DAVID: the article is filled with examples of how to improve this basic diversity at the bottom of our Earth's primary ecosystem. It came from God's dead ends, despite dhw's objections to dead ends as useless. He needs a big re-think.

dhw: The vital importance of microbial life is beyond dispute, but a dead end refers to something that comes to an end and leads nowhere. A life form that is still alive, is of vital importance to all other forms of life, and will probably remain alive until there is no other life left on this planet, is not a dead end! Please stop making a mockery of language! […]

DAVID: The definition of evolution notes the passage of organisms as new ones appear. Your argument is a distortion of the process.

We all know that there are countless organisms which are now extinct (= the “passage of organisms”)! And we all know that new ones appeared! The distortion is your absurd claim that all the extinct ones, the majority of which did NOT lead to sapiens and our food, were necessary to fulfil your God’s one and only purpose, which was to design sapiens and our food.