Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by dhw, Thursday, May 05, 2022, 08:37 (716 days ago) @ David Turell

Chixculub

DAVID: Your problem is you want exact info about God's reasoning. […]

dhw: I do not want information about God’s reasoning, but about yours. […]

DAVID: This is a pean asking me to explain God to you from my reasoning.

No, I am asking you to explain (a) the reasoning behind your theory that your God’s sole purpose was to design humans plus food and so he designed countless forms of life and food that did not lead to humans plus food, and (b) why, if humans were his only purpose, he would have chosen to design them in stages instead of directly, although you believe he was perfectly capable of designing species directly without any precursors.

DAVID: I have given you my approach to God in all the quotes you despise.

You have stated that your theory makes perfect sense to you, although “What I cannot explain is why God chose evolution over direct creation. Why can’t you accept that explanation?” And “God makes sense only to Himself”.

DAVID: I simply accept God's works and try to understand them from the viewpoint God knows exactly what He wants to do at any moment on the way to his goals.

And I keep agreeing that he would have known exactly what he wanted to do, and since what he did was create a system that produced the higgledy-piggledy bush of life, most of which did not lead to humans, your combined theories do not make sense. (Why have you yet again used the plural “goals”, when you insist that his only goal was humans plus our food?)

DAVID: Episodes like Chixculub are simply events along the way that make sense to God, and we are left with trying to reach a reasonable interpretation that may or may not satisfy all of us.

The whole history of evolution is of events along the way! Your point was that Chixculub took evolution in a totally new direction, which suggests that your God changed his mind, or was not in full control – both of which contradict your theory that his only goal right from the start was humans plus our food and he knew exactly what to do in order to produce them.

dhw: You have said over and over again that ID and Adler do not promulgate the theory that your God’s only purpose was to create humans plus food and therefore he designed countless species and econiches that did not lead to humans plus food. As for solipsism, when you make direct statements about your beliefs, I take them to be representative of your true thoughts. You wrote: “What I cannot explain is why God chose evolution over direct creation. Why can’t you accept that explanation?” And “God makes sense only to Himself”. “If you can’t explain a theory, and you think that only God can, I take it to mean that it doesn’t make sense to you.

DAVID: It simply means I accept what God did for His reason, as above. And it makes perfect sense to me.

It also makes perfect sense to me that if God exists, he would have had a reason for doing what he did. And I have offered various theories which you agree fit in logically with the history of life as we know it. Your theory alone is such that it cannot be explained even by you.

DAVID: It means you do not understand how believers think about God. As for Adler and ID, their views form my views. It does not involve your twisted version of my view of evolution. ID and Adler fully believe God created evolution.

If God exists, I have no doubt that he created evolution. And I fully accept the logic behind ID, and behind Adler’s use of humans, as evidence for the existence of God. It is your theory of evolution as summarized above which is full of logical flaws, and since you can’t find an explanation, I’m sorry but I cannot accept that this is my fault because you think all believers would accept your illogical theory which apparently only makes sense to God.