Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, June 07, 2022, 18:25 (686 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: […]I do not expect you to support any of the alternatives I offer. You agree that they are logical, and you agree that you can’t find any logic in the combination of your own theories. And so I merely ask you to admit that at least one of your theories might be wrong, and one or other of my own might be right.

DAVID: I have never agreed that my thoeries might be wrong, much as you try to imagine it. My thoughts are sufficient logical for me to be satisfied with them. You illogically criticise God because He didn't just create us forthwith! And all the while you agree God can do whatever He wishes to do. Can't have it both ways.

dhw: You are satisfied by telling us that you can’t explain your combination of theories, which “makes sense only to God”, and I should go and ask him for an explanation. I have never criticized your God! My criticism is of your illogical theories, e.g. that your God’s one and only purpose was to design us and our food, and so he designed countless life forms and foods that had no connection with us and our food. The only point that we can agree on here is that you have never agreed that your inexplicable theories might be wrong!

DAVID: You still don't understand belief! History shows us what God did in this theism discussion. I simply accept the history as God's results following His reasons, not known to us.

dhw: You still don’t understand that whether God exists or not, the history consists of countless life forms, most of which are extinct and had no connection with humans. History does not show that God designed every one of them, or that every one of them was an “absolute requirement” for the design of humans plus food, or that humans plus food were his goal from the very beginning of life. Please stop imagining that these theories are history. They are beliefs which, when combined, are so illogical that you are forced to admit that you cannot explain why your God would have fulfilled your version of his purpose in your version of his actions.

I firmly believe God created the history we know. You cannot tell me not to do that! I accept it exactly as God's !!!

DAVID: Our final appearance demonstrates His final goal. He did it His way, the way you complain about. That you can't understand my theories you call inexplicable, is your problem, not mine. Your analysis is totally wrong, so as long as you use it, we will ping pong forever!

dhw: > So long as you continue to conflate your theories with the history, and continue to combine theories which are so illogical that you admit you cannot explain them and they “make sense only to God”, of course we will ping pong forever. If you can’t accept your own statements, what chance do I have of convincing you that your statements mean what they say?

My statements mean I accept the history as God's direct work. He is the author/creator of the history. The fact that you do not accept that is why my theories confuse you. We are discussing at two different levels. Remember I do not accept how you think about God in any way.