Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, May 06, 2022, 00:54 (721 days ago) @ dhw

Chixculub

DAVID: I have given you my approach to God in all the quotes you despise.

dhw: You have stated that your theory makes perfect sense to you, although “What I cannot explain is why God chose evolution over direct creation. Why can’t you accept that explanation? ” And “God makes sense only to Himself”.

I can't understand why you don't realize after all these years of battle, that is just the exact way I think about God. It very similar to the way many folks (behind the scenes at the ID convention) think about God and His works. It means your thoughts about how to think about God are different than mine. Those quotes of mine are exact!!!

DAVID: I simply accept God's works and try to understand them from the viewpoint God knows exactly what He wants to do at any moment on the way to his goals.

dhw: And I keep agreeing that he would have known exactly what he wanted to do, and since what he did was create a system that produced the higgledy-piggledy bush of life, most of which did not lead to humans, your combined theories do not make sense. (Why have you yet again used the plural “goals”, when you insist that his only goal was humans plus our food?)

The bush has many goals along the way to finally humans.

DAVID: Episodes like Chixculub are simply events along the way that make sense to God, and we are left with trying to reach a reasonable interpretation that may or may not satisfy all of us.

dhw: The whole history of evolution is of events along the way! Your point was that Chixculub took evolution in a totally new direction, which suggests that your God changed his mind, or was not in full control – both of which contradict your theory that his only goal right from the start was humans plus our food and he knew exactly what to do in order to produce them.

Again, your twisted interpretation. Dinosaurs were around for a great length of time, so it must be obvious they played a major role. When God decide to move on He did. No change of mind I assume, just a planned shift to mammals. They had developed as small animals for some length of time during dinosaurs and were now ready to expand into their current very important role. Shroeder's guess about God's role if any, had no intent to snub God's reasoning. Shroeder's thinking is just like mine. You thought patterns are just not in our fraternity.

DAVID: It means you do not understand how believers think about God. As for Adler and ID, their views form my views. It does not involve your twisted version of my view of evolution. ID and Adler fully believe God created evolution.

dhw: If God exists, I have no doubt that he created evolution. And I fully accept the logic behind ID, and behind Adler’s use of humans, as evidence for the existence of God. It is your theory of evolution as summarized above which is full of logical flaws, and since you can’t find an explanation, I’m sorry but I cannot accept that this is my fault because you think all believers would accept your illogical theory which apparently only makes sense to God.

You can't deny you do not think about God as believers do.