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PART ONE
DAVID: The generalizations are very specific. The evolutionary process is a sorting process reaching toward more and more complex forms.
dhw: Agreed. But that does not explain why your God, whose only purpose was to design us and our food, would deliberately design countless life forms, 99% of which had no connection with us and our food.
You agree to my definition and then immediately deny it. "Sorting" means eliminating forms! One line of eliminations became us, massive other lines become our food. We use every living form as aspects of our food.
DAVID: As for a goal or goals for God, humans are obvious. God may well have others not so obvious.
dhw: With this statement, you have opened a promising door. Please name what you think might have been his other goals. […]
DAVID: I said 'may well have', a supposition. Recognize it for such.
hw: Door closed! Every theory about God – including his very existence - is a supposition, since nobody knows him! Why should inexplicable suppositions – yours make sense only to God - be more likely than others which fit in with the history of life as we know it?
Of course God's actions make sense to Him!
The environmentDAVID: He only added oxygen when it was necessary, no control over day-to-day environmental changes.
dhw: We are not talking about day-to-day changes. For example, forests turning into deserts, and asteroids causing mass extinctions, are not day-to-day changes.
DAVID: Agreed, much longer intervals.
dhw: See later for your volte face.
DAVID: Because of varying climate and environmental conditions dhw somehow thinks luck is involved!! […]
dhw: […] his lack of control over weather and environment meant luck determined what he could and couldn’t design under current conditions. You also believe luck determined which organisms failed to adapt when conditions changed, and so luck determined which 1% survived for him to work on at the next stage (until the Cambrian, when he started all over again).
DAVID: Raup: organism's bad luck results in low survival.dhw: Yes, in your theory it was their bad luck that your God had failed to give them adaptability to the new conditions, as above. And now for the volte face:
Supernovas and biodiversity
QUOTE: […] there’s a long history of Earth being affected by past cosmic events.[…] it’s possible that one effect of a supernova is a change in Earth’s climate. “A high number of supernovae leads to a cold climate with a large temperature difference between the equator and polar regions…
DAVID: This study says the cosmologic events change the Earth's environment. I stand by my theory that God does[not]interfere with or control these events. They happen and whatever results pop up God designs for them, no luck ever needed. […]
dhw: Yesterday your God was NOT in control of such major environmental changes as forests turning into deserts (the result of changes in climate) and asteroids hitting the Earth, but today your theory is that he DOES control such events!!! And so instead of adapting to the vagaries of chance (no control over the environment), he now deliberately changes the environment, but is still limited to what is possible under the new conditions, and therefore still designs new species, 99% of which are irrelevant to his one and only purpose. Your beliefs change so rapidly that perhaps by next week you’ll be telling us that all this confirms the theory that your God experiments with different conditions and different life forms.
Sorry for the typing error. Not is reinserted where it belongs. The next sentence fits the 'not'. My general views never change. And you can't change them by constantly producing gross distortions of interpretations of my entries.
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dhw,
2022-02-13, 12:10
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David Turell,
2022-02-12, 16:27
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-12, 07:47
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-11, 15:22
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-11, 13:14
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-10, 15:35
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-10, 13:10
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-09, 15:27
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-09, 08:54
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-08, 14:50
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-08, 07:08
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-05, 16:07
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-05, 08:33
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-04, 16:11
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-04, 07:58
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-03, 20:24
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-03, 12:19
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-02, 18:23
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-02, 08:39
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-02-01, 16:13
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-02-01, 12:03
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-31, 18:50
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-31, 13:24
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-30, 16:17
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-30, 11:22
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-29, 15:50
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-29, 08:16
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-28, 21:31
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-28, 13:32
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-27, 16:58
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-27, 07:30
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-26, 16:13
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-26, 12:24
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-25, 18:48
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-25, 08:20
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-24, 15:46
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-24, 12:49
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-23, 15:35
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-23, 12:26
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-22, 15:09
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-22, 13:12
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-21, 18:53
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-21, 08:10
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-20, 16:09
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-20, 11:36
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-19, 15:33
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-19, 11:23
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-18, 16:16
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-18, 08:47
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-17, 16:22
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-17, 13:16
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-16, 16:24
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-16, 13:29
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-15, 15:43
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-15, 08:42
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-14, 15:33
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-14, 09:23
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-13, 16:00
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-13, 09:56
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-12, 15:55
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-12, 09:28
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-11, 16:05
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-11, 08:03
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
David Turell,
2022-01-10, 18:36
- Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 -
dhw,
2022-01-10, 15:27
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-09, 15:53
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-09, 13:51
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-08, 15:07
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-08, 12:59
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-07, 14:37
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-07, 07:48
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-06, 15:37
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-06, 11:52
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-05, 19:55
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-05, 12:45
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-03, 20:46
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-03, 14:11
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-02, 16:04
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-02, 11:17
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2022-01-01, 15:51
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2022-01-01, 11:49
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-31, 20:27
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-31, 14:00
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-30, 15:03
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-30, 13:20
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-29, 14:52
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-29, 12:01
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-28, 15:26
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-28, 14:12
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-27, 15:14
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-27, 08:53
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-23, 15:34
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-23, 09:20
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-23, 00:31
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-22, 22:05
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-20, 16:44
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-20, 07:04
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-19, 16:11
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-19, 12:52
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-18, 15:45
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-18, 07:49
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-17, 15:40
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-17, 14:59
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-16, 15:51
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-16, 11:14
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
David Turell,
2021-12-15, 18:39
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART ONE -
dhw,
2021-12-15, 17:22
- Return to David's theory of evolution PART TWO -
dhw,
2021-12-14, 15:07