Return to David's theory of evolution PART 1 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Thursday, June 16, 2022, 17:56 (889 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: No dodge. Your complaint about my God doesn't recognize how I think about my God, as above.

dhw: You think about your God as having one purpose (us and our food), and therefore specially designing countless life forms and foods that had no connection with us. And you have no idea why he would have done so. I recognize that you think your God acts in a way which only he can make sense of.

Thank you. We wouldn't be here, with God running evolution, unless His goal was to create us.

Ediacaran-Cambrian transition: 410,000 years

DAVID: The true answer to how long speciation takes is unknown. The many gaps don't tell us.

dhw: […] If you allow say 10 years for generations, you have 41,000 generations to produce your innovations. Halve it if you like. Even 20,000 generations should be enough for intelligent cell communities to come up with their innovations.

DAVID: […] There is no existing proof of that concept. All we have is fossil gaps. We do not know how species appear or the theoretical times involved. All you have is quoting hopeful explanations while I see a designer is required.

dhw: You have hit the nail on the head. WE DO NOT KNOW. And so I quote possible explanations, as alternatives to your “hopeful explanation” that there is a God who created new species without any precursors (although conversely you also believe in the continuity of the evolutionary process – see Part Two).

DAVID: The Cambrian gap is exactly what Darwin knew. New forms with no precursors!!! And now we know in just 410,000 years. With provable fossils from both periods.

dhw: You wrote: “We do not know how species appear or the theoretical times involved”, and you have totally ignored the argument that it is generations, not time that produce new species, and even 20,000 generations of intelligent cell communities could suffice for the production of new species. You call that a “hopeful explanation”. I call it a logical explanation, but of course it remains just as theoretical as your own: that an unknown eternal, universal mind preprogrammed or dabbled every change.

So you brush off your hero's worry. Every species gap we have in fossils is millions of years
e xcept the Cambrian!!! Use the whale series as one example. There are many others. No examples of tiny genertional changes in fossils is ever found. All new species appear de novo. (Gould)