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by David Turell , Monday, February 21, 2022, 14:34 (1004 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: At least we are now making a little bit of headway – a purpose is a purpose - but I wish you wouldn’t make such authoritative statements on your God’s behalf. You have no more direct access to him (if he exists) than I have. Now please tell us what you think is his primary purpose for creating the whole bush of life, including humans.

DAVID: God didn't tell me. My point above is God selflessly creates, with no regard to affecting His emotions as He goes about His business of fulfilling His planned events. You agree neither of us has direct access. Respect that fact as we hypothesize.

dhw: Your God hasn’t told anyone anything, so how do you know that he creates selflessly, and his enjoyment and interest are only secondary, though you can’t even guess at a primary purpose? If he exists, you are sure that he enjoys creating and is interested in his creations. So until you can come up with a “primary” purpose, we can settle for that as a possible purpose for all his actions.

Your comment raises the obvious point that if you don't accept selflessly, why do you then accept enjoys and interested? We view God totally differently. As for primary purpose, He created this reality and evolved life to an endpoint of humans. I think that shows purpose enough.

DAVID: See today's article on seemingly directed mutation in the 'Nature Journal' study. I still see a designer at work.

dhw: So the answer to my question whether you believe in a 3.8-billion-year-old programme for deep-sea diving, or individual operations of some kind on a group of whales, is no longer that the question is facetious, but yes, that is what you believe in, far-fetched though it may seem. Today’s article on random mutations merely reiterates the point that you and I agreed on 14 years ago when this website first opened – namely, that we do not accept random mutations as a reasonable explanation for the evolution of species. An alternative which you simply refuse to consider is that if your God exists, he might have endowed cells with the ability to do their own designing. Sorry if that slipped your memory.

I never forget that you accept a weird theory that true designers hand off their work to secondhand sources. How many substitutes wrote your novels or plays?