Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, August 02, 2022, 18:50 (842 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: How to make sense of it is to recognize God knows exactly what He is doing and how to do it His way. Each stage of evolution had its own set of ecosystems to provide necessary food supply for all. Our knowledge of evolution demonstrates just that. The current ecosystem bush of life supports our current huge population, all evolved from past bushes.

dhw: But all past bushes were not specially designed as “absolute requirements” for us and our food, and that is what makes nonsense of your theory that your God’s one and only purpose from the beginning was to create us and our food! Stop dodging!

Humans arrived on their special branch, but they became custodians of the Earth and developed to an enormous population. God knew this would obviously happen so all the other branches had to be developed for ecosystems of food. Purely excellent designing for the preordained future. The dodge is yours in not understanding and rejecting this view.

DAVID:[…] […] The past is dead isn't it? Or do you communicate with it? The past is a stage in our evolution and dies, doesn't it?

dhw: Yes, the past is dead, and only part of the past was a stage in our evolution, and the rest had no connection with us. Hence the absurdity of your theory that all those parts of the past that had no connection with us plus our food were individually designed as preparation for us. Stop dodging!

To repeat, all past development of so many forms create today's food supply.

dhw: I asked what you thought was your God’s “primary purpose in creating humans.

dhw: Oh, your God gave us brains which can think about him and recognize him, but you don’t know if God wanted us to think about him and recognize him. So please tell us what you think was his purpose in creating a species which could think about him and recognize him.

DAVID: We are here so He wanted to create us. His obvious purpose must include that we will recognize His existence. Other purposes are all guesswork.

dhw: And countless numbers of life forms were here that had no connection with humans plus our food, and so according to you he must have wanted to create them. Why, if his only purpose was to create us plus our food? And why do you think his desire to be recognized is less “human” than enjoyment of creating things that will interest him?

food issue handled above. We do not know if God wanted recognition. What I am sure of is that my God does creates without any self-interest, while yours does.

DAVID: (transferred from “savannah theory”): Your humanized God seeks entertainment and allows evolution to proceed as a free-for-all. My view of God sees Him as fully purposeful at all times, creating without any self-needy desires.

dhw: I used your own terms when you were certain that he “enjoyed” creating” and was “interested” in his creations. I have never used the word “entertainment”. The free-for-all is ONE of my theories, to explain the existence of all those past life forms that had no connection with humans plus food, as well as all the life forms that cause damage to us and our ecosystems (the problem of theodicy), for which you can find no explanation.

All of your God personality suggestions imply self-interest.