Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by dhw, Thursday, June 02, 2022, 09:24 (903 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Your complaints are unchanged and my solutions are reasonable.. (1) challenges God's right to choose His preferred methodology. God has all the time He wishes to take to reach a goal. This complaint is total human thinking foolishness. You want God to rush because you see that as expeditious. God doesn't have to.

dhw: I am not challenging his right, and of course he has all the time he wishes to reach a goal! I am challenging your personal theory that his one and only goal was to design us and our food! If that was his goal, why did he design all the life forms and foods that had no connection with his goal? You haven’t offered ANY solution. You can’t find a single reason. I’m supposed to go and ask God.

DAVID: Exactly!!! Only God knows why He did it His way. You must think of it as follows: the historical evidence of how evolution happened from Archaea to us is a God created history. Remember, Adler uses this as proof of God. Think about it, Adler did this without your reservations!! If alive, he would consider your irrationality as screwy as I do.

As usual, you dodge the whole issue by hiding behind Adler’s “proof” of God’s existence. And I am not challenging the theory that we evolved from bacteria! I am challenging your illogical theory that your God’s only purpose was us and our food, and therefore he designed countless life forms and foods that had no connection with us.

DAVID: (2) is really a variation of (1). You want me to give you God's reasoning for his choices. I obviously can't, but that doesn't make my thought process about God illogical. Does God have the right to make His own choices of methodology? Your answer will tell the point.

dhw: The answer is yes, and he has the right to choose his goal, and your personal theory about his goal and his methodology is so illogical that apparently “it makes sense only to God”, which means it doesn’t make sense to you. Please stop pretending that your theory about God’s goal and method of achieving that goal is an objective fact.

DAVID: It is so simple!!! The bold is obvious. I accept God's choices of how to accomplish His desires for creation. That makes perfect sense to me!!!

You accept your own theory that his sole “desire” was to design us and our food and therefore he designed all the species and foods that had no connection with us; and you accept your own theory that he was perfectly capable of designing species with no precursors and yet decided to design in stages the only species he wanted to create (plus its food). And it makes perfect sense to you that only your God can make sense of your illogical theories.

dhw: I trust that logical alternatives to your illogical theories will never again be dismissed on the grounds that they entail thought patterns and emotions similar to our own, since you regard such patterns as being 50% possible.

DAVID: All we can do is guess.

dhw: Or at least keep an open mind, as opposed to pretending that 50/50 yes or no = 100% no.

DAVID: Some of us have the mental power to make choices based on evidence.

Some of you have the power to put on mental blinkers that will shut out the 50% of evidence against your rigid beliefs.