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by David Turell , Thursday, February 01, 2024, 19:17 (85 days ago) @ dhw

99.9% versus 0.1%

dhw: And according to your own statements, the same applies to all extinct species: 99.9% of them were NOT the ancestors of current species.

DAVID: Again, each species here today came from as long line of ancestors in the past. Based on Raup's statistics I assume each line had 99.9% loss/culling with 0.1% survival. The cumulative 99.9% came from each 0.1% line living.

dhw: Correct. That is statistic No. 1). And you have now agreed that the 99.9% of extinct species were NOT the ancestors of the current 0.1% of survivors.

How did you conclude that? EVERY LINE IN THE BRANCHING BUSH CAME FROM EXTINCT ANCESTORS. I HAVE CONCLUDED that each line can be considered under Raup's statistical analysis as 99.9% of each line's ancestors contributed to their surviving 0.1%. God did not destroy species, but instead purposely created the species humans would need. What was removed were transient forms being perfected into today's excellent results.

DAVID: Raup considered extinctions bad luck, which means to me God planned for their extinctions by creating new challenges they could not handle, thus culling.

dhw: You wrote that “species were not culled out”. Thank you for now confirming your view that species were culled out. I don’t know why you are quoting Raup, since you obviously disagree. If your God planned a way of culling them, you are once more left with the absurd theory that he deliberately designed them, knowing they were irrelevant to his purpose, and then cleverly worked out a way of culling them.

DAVID: I quote Raup, and everything about his book you have learned from me!

dhw: Correct. And if Raup says extinction/survival was a matter of luck, and you say no, it was all planned by your God, then you are teaching me that you disagree with Raup.

Of course, Raup is using a Darwinian theory in an atheistic way. I am using my theistic way.

dhw: Summary: 99.9% of the ancestors of current species are extinct. Only 0.1% of all extinct species were the ancestors of current species. You believe current species, with humans in charge, were your God’s one and only goal, and you have no idea why he would have specially created and culled the 99.9% of extinct species that had no connection with his one and only goal.

DAVID: Stop your repetition of a falsehood. All are connected to humans, since we run the Earth and used all of it. All living forms now are here because God put them here for us.

dhw: What falsehood? Are you still maintaining that we and our contemporary species are directly descended from 99.9% of extinct species? That every past and present species was/is “connected” to humans, although 99.9% of past species aren’t even here? Please explain which part of my summary is a “falsehood”.

Your view is still totally skewed. Read my bold above. Not your concept!!!