Return to David's theory of evolution PARTS 1 & 2 (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, July 18, 2022, 17:13 (641 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Once again you ignore what evolution did as a whole. That all the branches are not human branches is obvious, but they must exist to provide food for all. You create the bits and pieces, with your disjointed view of the bush of life. In the giant ecosystem of life, all parts are dependent upon each other for food.

dhw: Of course all parts of all ecosystems depend on each other for food! But it is you who ignore what “evolution did as a whole”, because you insist that every extinct branch and every extinct ecosystem, including all those that had no connection with us and our food, was preparation for and an “absolute requirement” for us and our food!

You forget my view is God did everything He thought He should/had to do to prepare for the appearance of humans and their eventual giant population. See below for my explanation of how I think about God:

DAVID:The only aspect of my theory you have glommed onto is simply 'what makes sense to God' is the reason He chose to evolve us. It is His private reasoning. Simply accepting it is OK. So it makes perfect sense to me and many others.

dhw: Then please explain why your God, whose one and only purpose you say was to evolve (= design) h. sapiens plus food, evolved (designed) countless life forms and econiches that had no connection with h. sapiens plus food. And while you’re at it, please explain how your inability to explain a theory which “makes sense only to God” can possibly mean that the theory makes sense to you?

Your same inability to see God as I do.

dhw: I have provided several alternative theories to explain why – if he exists - he chose evolution to produce the countless number of life forms and econiches that constitute the history of life on Earth, including those which had no connection with sapiens and our food.

DAVID: Just accept that your theories about God's reasoning results in your very humanized God version.

dhw: One of your certainties in the past was that your God enjoyed creating and was interested in his creations. One of my alternative theories is that he might have enjoyed creating all the life forms and econiches (including humans), and he wanted to create something that he would find interesting. Please explain why you find this possibility unacceptable.

God does not ever need anything for self-interest. He is complete within Himself, something you do not understand.

DAVID: Your constant interpretation of my thoughts is so twisted and lacks so much insight into my thinking it seems impossible for me to explain it, but I have tried above.

dhw: How can you possibly explain a theory which “makes sense only to God”? Please tell me which of these “interpretations of your thoughts” are twisted: 1) God’s one and only purpose was to “evolve” (= design) sapiens plus food. 2) God individually “evolved” (= designed) countless life forms and econiches that had no connection with sapiens plus food. 3) God designed some species (Cambrian) that had no precursors (i.e. that did not evolve in stages).

DAVID: Same mess of your psychoanalysis of my theory which I have fully rationally explained.

dhw: Please tell me which of the above interpretations of your theory is "twisted". And once more, please explain rationally why a God whose one and only purpose was to design sapiens plus food proceeded to design countless life forms and econiches that had no connection with sapiens plus food.

Same response: "You forget my view is God did everything He thought He should/had to do to prepare for the appearance of humans and their eventual giant population.

And: The only aspect of my theory you have glommed onto is simply 'what makes sense to God' is the reason He chose to evolve us. It is His private reasoning. Simply accepting it is OK. So it makes perfect sense to me and many others.[/i]

And to repeat: you do not know how to think about God. Not an insult to your intelligence, but an inability to entertain a different sort of God than you are able to envision.