Return to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Monday, December 19, 2022, 08:26 (488 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: We have agreed 99% disappeared in evolution. It is a messy process compared to direct creation. We agree on that also.

dhw: And your God is responsible for the mess. You have agreed that if his one and only aim was to design us plus food, the mess can be explained by the theory that he was experimenting and specially designing mistakes, wrong choices and failures as he did so. Why are you prolonging the agony?

DAVID: The agony is yours. Evolution is filled with mistakes and successes. However, it always advances forward to new more complex forms. Therefore, it is a successful process. My belief is God chose this process for His own reasons. God always knows best.

By prolonging the agony, I mean continuing a discussion which is already settled. You have informed us of your latest theory: that your God’s only purpose was to design us and our food; he proceeded to conduct countless experiments in order to do this, 99% of which were mistakes, failures, wrong choices, and this made the whole process a mess, but he finally succeeded in achieving what he wanted to achieve. What more is there to say?

DAVID: It is your concerned human view God used a messy process to produce us.

It’s YOUR human view. How many more times? Read your own words: “He is responsible for all the messy aspects of evolution. Yes, He is. The whole of evolution is a messy process of successes and failures. “ I have no objection to your humanising your God in this manner. You are simply accepting the first alternative I offered you, but adding terms of your own like “mistakes”, failed experiments” and “mess”, which I never used. I don't mind. Honestly. Your theory explains all the dead ends, and it keeps intact your fixed belief that we and our food were your God's one and only purpose.


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