David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, November 14, 2020, 11:42 (1468 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw (to David): 1) All species evolved from bacteria. By “evolved” you mean God directly designed. The continuum of evolution was a branching out into vast numbers of now extinct life forms and econiches, 99% of which had no connection with humans. Your self-demolition, taking the brontosaurus as one example out of millions: “Of course the brontosaurus is not directly connected to us.” And “extinct life has no role in current time.” If extinct life had no connection to humans and no role in current time, how could it all have been part of the goal of evolving humans?

DAVID: The part you skip is common descent.

“All species evolved from bacteria” means common descent!

DAVID: We all use the same DNA code from bacteria to us. God designed each stage with more and more complexity to get to us. God decided to evolve us: since God creates history, history tells us how He did it.

The part you skip is that you believe your God directly designed every species, and 99% of the species he directly designed had no connection with humans. How does that come to mean that every life form was “part of the goal of evolving [=directly designing] humans”?

DAVID: As for the bold above, that is your miniscule interpretation of how I view God. God created the fine=tuned universe to allow life. Then He guided the giant Milky Way formation to allow the Earth-friendly planet to form, which had many necessary attributes, in a safe areas of the galaxy; with all that in place He created life with Archaea bacteria. He then evolved Humans with a giant food bush to nourish them. All important interim goals on the way to His final goal of having us most unusual and unexpected form to ever appear (Adler).

Another of your dodges. If God exists, I am not disputing the logic behind your theory that he created all the conditions necessary for life. Our dispute begins at life itself, with the illogicality of your theory that he directly designed every extinct life form, econiche, natural wonder etc. “as part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans” although 99% of them had no connection with humans. Please stop dodging!

DAVID: I know what history tells me. I don't have to know why He decided to do it this way. All of your complaints are simply criticisms of God's choices of action as I view it.

They are criticisms of your view of God’s actions, because it makes no sense for your God to have directly designed vast numbers of life forms and econiches and food supplies and natural wonders with no connection to humans if his goal was to directly design humans.

DAVID: I asked you a long time ago if you wanted direct creation as a result of your complaints about God. That is the conclusion anyone who believes would think. Your demolition exists only in your illogical approach to the concept of a non-human God.

I am not complaining about your God but about your interpretation of his purpose and method of achieving that purpose, and I am not proposing direct creation at all – the very opposite. I criticize your theory because it is illogical. You acknowledge the logic of my theory – theistic version: God invented cellular intelligence to allow organisms to design their own modes of survival in response to changing conditions – but you criticize it because it “humanizes” your God, although you agree that he probably has thought patterns, emotions and other attributes similar to our own!