Back to David's theory of evolution: God's errors (Evolution)

by dhw, Monday, August 03, 2020, 12:28 (1571 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Your analysis of what I presented shows your total lack of understanding. The molecular errors we are discussing are not during evolution, but errors we see in current living organisms. Errors that influenced evolutionary direction of course were allowed if God approved of them. Please concentrate on current errors.

dhw: How can I when you tell us that “prior to our appearance…he allowed beneficial mistakes…which shows that even at a time of total control (i.e. before sapiens) molecular mistakes could happen", and indeed according to you “a mutational error favoured by natural selection or by God may have arranged for our human evolution”. The errors have always been present in the system!

DAVID: Agreed, and I contend during evolution God stepped in and corrected those He wanted dismissed and kept those that were benefical to his plans.

First you tell me we are only discussing current errors. Now you agree we are discussing evolution. Thank you. As regards evolution, how could he have kept or corrected the errors if he had no control over them? Read your own statements: “If He couldn’t stop the molecular errors, then they are not His fault.” “He put in backups, so He was correcting as much as he could.” “You do not understand the issue that high speed reactions can have errors God can’t control” “I am the one willing to show that God is not all-powerful and all-knowing and He can’t stop molecular errors in a system he created.” Your theory changes day by day.

DAVID: I don't know why you are so confused about the different times. I'll admit I may not Have made my thoughts clear to you as to how God did things as He ran evolution and the present time.

It is you who are confused about the times, and you have not made your thoughts clear to me because they are not clear to you. They are full of contradictions, as above. The rest of your post simply repeats the contradictions I have pointed out above, so I’ll skip all but the last exchange:

DAVID: You just can't seem to accept that God fully recognized His inability to control molecules under His instruction when they made a mistakes. It is all quite clear to me, and I will try to make it clear to you. During evolution He corrected everything, now He relies upon us.

We are talking about evolution, and you can’t see the contradiction: God “fully recognized his inability to control the molecules”, but he “corrected everything”! How do you correct what you can’t control? As for relying on us, I wonder when he told you that, and I’m also surprised at your belief that your once all-powerful God now relies on us being smarter than him and being able to correct the errors he couldn’t correct.