David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by dhw, Monday, November 09, 2020, 10:39 (348 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Simple concept you refuse to acknowledge: God CHOSE to evolve us from bacteria. It fits the history of evolution, and since I believe God is the creator of our reality, with that belief, it is logical for me.

dhw: I really don’t know how else to explain the problem to you, since you continue to ignore all the aspects of your theory that make it illogical. We agree that humans evolved, and so if God exists, evolution was clearly his choice of method to achieve whatever may have been his purpose. So far so good. But 1) “evolution” does not mean God directly designed every life form. 2) EVERY life form, and not just humans, evolved from bacteria. 3) You agree that millions of extinct life forms and their food supplies had no direct connection with humans. 4) The question you continue to dodge: If your God’s purpose was to evolve – which according to you means DIRECTLY DESIGN – humans, why would he have directly designed millions of extinct life forms and their food supplies, which had no direct connection with humans, before he started to directly design humans?

DAVID: Your approach is to state God ran evolution but didn't design everyone!! Fine, so please tell me how God did it. You posit God gave organisms the ability to design the next steps, and that is how it works. That is a possible answer.

And that is all I ask: recognition that the theory of cellular intelligence is a possible explanation of how evolution works.

DAVID: Our difference here is my view of God, as in full control of His purpose, will directly design.

And that is precisely the problem emphasized by my bold. If his purpose was to directly design humans, why did he directly design millions of life forms and food supplies that have no direct connection with humans?

DAVID: The bold is just silly. It is simple to recognize that if God is in change of evolution, He and it took the time to evolve humans over 3.8 billion years to make humans.

As usual, you gloss over the fact that you believe EVERY life form and every stage of humans was directly designed. And so I repeat the above bolded question.

DAVID: You are simply questioning God's choice of method of creating humans. As for direct connection, many branches are not directly related to human formation. That is just part of creating the giant bush for food supply, an obvious need. We can trace the line from bacteria to humans. We all have the same DNA basis.

Yes, there must be one line from bacteria to humans. But there are thousands of lines from bacteria to other, extinct species, and you have agreed explicitly that 99% of “other species” and the bushes of the PAST have no connection with current species or the current bush for humans: “extinct life has no role in current times”.

Transferred from “Theodicy”:

DAVID: God created history. History tells us what happened and you disagree with God's method of creating us. I view you as finding fault with Him and the method He used.

Yes indeed, history tells us what happened, and if God exists, he created it, but I am not disagreeing with God’s method of creating us and I am not finding fault with him or his method. I am disagreeing with your INTERPRETATION of God’s purpose and/or your INTERPRETATION of his method of achieving his purpose. And I disagree with you because you yourself can find no logical link between your INTERPRETATIONS of his purpose and his method, which is why you go on and on avoiding the bolded question.

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