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by David Turell , Friday, August 07, 2020, 18:24 (1567 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: I cannot see the logic behind your insistence that every single organism in every single econiche in life’s history was “part of the goal of creating humans”.

DAVID: Same silly distortion. I don 't try to explain His choice of method.

dhw: There is no distortion in my repetition of your own words or in the fact that I can’t see the logic behind your theory. You tried earlier to explain the choice of method you impose on your God by telling us that He had to design all the organisms in all the econiches to feed humans who weren’t there yet. I don’t blame you for not trying again.

DAVID: The simple result is we are here and I use history to tell us how God did it. You can't deny that.

dhw: History tells us we are here. It does not tell us that your God directly designed every life form and econiche – a theory you yourself have now demolished by claiming that the beneficial mutations were NOT designed but merely “allowed” – and it does not tell us that he did so “as part of the goal of creating humans”, with 3.X billion years’ worth of food designed to feed humans who did not yet exist.

DAVID: If God allowed a chance mutation, He is in total control, as He can destroy what He wishes.

dhw: You wrote: “I accept and have always known God has certain limits in control over high speed molecular reactions. I still view Him as all-powerful.” A God who has certain limits in control is not in total control and is not all-powerful. You also wrote: “I am the one willing to show that God is not all-powerful and all knowing and he can’t stop molecular errors in a system he created.” One moment you proudly announce that he is not all-powerful, and the next moment you still view him as all-powerful.

Fully explained in the other thread on molecular errors.

dhw: And once more you have dodged the fact that history does not tell us your God designed every life form and food supply that ever existed, or that he did so “as part of the goal of creating humans” - two theories for which you can find no logical link.

They are totally linked. You don't assume as I do that God creates all of history. Therefore if evolution occurred from bacteria to humans God did it. What I cannot know, nor can anyone else, is why He made that choice of action. Your agnostically proposed link does not need to be found.