David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by David Turell , Sunday, November 08, 2020, 15:12 (1474 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Simple concept you refuse to acknowledge: God CHOSE to evolve us from bacteria. It fits the history of evolution, and since I believe God is the creator of our reality, with that belief, it is logical for me.

dhw: I really don’t know how else to explain the problem to you, since you continue to ignore all the aspects of your theory that make it illogical. We agree that humans evolved, and so if God exists, evolution was clearly his choice of method to achieve whatever may have been his purpose. So far so good. But 1) “evolution” does not mean God directly designed every life form. 2) EVERY life form, and not just humans, evolved from bacteria. 3) You agree that millions of extinct life forms and their food supplies had no direct connection with humans. 4) The question you continue to dodge: If your God’s purpose was to evolve – which according to you means DIRECTLY DESIGN – humans, why would he have directly designed millions of extinct life forms and their food supplies, which had no direct connection with humans, before he started to directly design humans?

Your approach is to state God ran evolution but didn't design everyone!! Fine, so please tell me how God did it. You posit God gave organisms the ability to design the next steps, and that is how it works. That is a possible answer. Our difference here is my view of God, as in full control of His purpose, will directly design. The bold is just silly. It is simple to recognize that if God is in change of evolution, He and it took the time to evolve humans over 3.8 billion years to make humans. You are simply questioning God's choice of method of creating humans. As for direct connection, many branches are not directly related to human formation. That is just part of creating the giant bush for food supply, an obvious need. We can trace the line from bacteria to humans. We all have the same DNA basis.

dhw: Some time ago you admitted that you had “no idea” why your God would have chosen to “evolve” (= directly design) humans in this manner, and perhaps we should simply leave it at that.

DAVID: Of course none of us can know His personal reasons. To review, you have no beliefs about God, just opinions of possibilities, as an agnostic should have. We cannot cross that gulf of difference, but we have defined it in our rigid positions.

dhw: My “opinions of possibilities” do not provide an answer to the above question. If only you would stick to your earlier acknowledgement that you have “no idea” why your God - whose purpose was to directly design humans and their food supply- chose first to design millions of life forms and their food supplies that had no direct connection to humans, we could move on.

We can just simply accept our differences of interpretation and move on. We start with different images of God and who he is purposefully.