Back to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by dhw, Saturday, August 08, 2020, 11:17 (354 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: I cannot see the logic behind your insistence that every single organism in every single econiche in life’s history was “part of the goal of creating humans”.

DAVID: Same silly distortion. I don 't try to explain His choice of method.

dhw: There is no distortion in my repetition of your own words or in the fact that I can’t see the logic behind your theory. You tried earlier to explain the choice of method you impose on your God by telling us that He had to design all the organisms in all the econiches to feed humans who weren’t there yet. I don’t blame you for not trying again.

DAVID: The simple result is we are here and I use history to tell us how God did it. You can't deny that.

dhw: And once more you have dodged the fact that history does not tell us your God designed every life form and food supply that ever existed, or that he did so “as part of the goal of creating humans” - two theories for which you can find no logical link.

DAVID: They are totally linked. You don't assume as I do that God creates all of history. Therefore if evolution occurred from bacteria to humans God did it.

I do not assume as you do that your God DIRECTED all of history. Evolution occurred from bacteria to countless millions of life forms, econiches, lifestyles, strategies and natural wonders, culminating (so far) in humans, and I do not assume as you do that – in your pre-errors theory – he directly created every one of them as “part of the goal of creating humans”.

DAVID: What I cannot know, nor can anyone else, is why He made that choice of action. Your agnostically proposed link does not need to be found.

You cannot know and cannot even begin to explain why he would have deliberately designed all those millions of life forms etc. if his only goal was humans, but you assume that this was his method of fulfilling his only goal. The illogicality of this inexplicable idea has nothing to do with my agnosticism. I have offered you various theistic explanations of the history (including two in which humans are indeed a specific goal), all of which you agree are logical, but you reject them because they "humanize" your God, although you agree that your God probably has thought patterns and attributes similar to ours.

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