Back to David's theory of evolution: God's errors (Evolution)

by dhw, Friday, July 24, 2020, 11:20 (454 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: It is clearly absurd to argue that God could not control or correct the errors in the system he created, but then he gave cells instructions on how to control or correct the errors he could not control or correct when he created the system!

DAVID: "Clearly absurd" shows a total misunderstanding of the problem. Living biochemistry is an amazing development, whose origin is not understood. To repeat once again: the molecular reactions are at split-second speed, generally relying on function from specialized folding of organic molecules. Contrary to dhw's opinion it is amazing it works as well as it does. Ask any biochemist.

This must be the most “non sequitur” response you have come up with so far. Living biochemistry is so amazing that it is the best possible argument for design, as I have repeated over and over again. Now please explain the logic behind your belief that your God could not control the errors in the system and therefore gave cells instructions on how to control the errors in the system.

Thank you for all the articles on complexities and errors. I’ll reproduce your comments, as they are clearly related to the above.

Comment: as usual a complex, highly controlled system, obviously designed. The better we understand it, the better we can correct errors.

Comment: Another very complex mechanism to transport molecular product. Note my bold. All biochemists know mistakes happen. None of life's processes are fail-safe despite many safeguard systems in place.

Comment: A highly complex system not produced by chance. And again this may help us correct things that will go wrong.

We all know that things go wrong! Your solution to the problem of “errors” by your God - which we might call a branch of theodicy - is to present him as having invented a system which he could not control (so somehow this means the errors were not his fault), but he provided us with safeguards as well as the intelligence to correct some of the errors which he himself could not correct. The safeguards can only mean he did know how to correct some of the errors he did not know how to correct, and our intelligence must be greater than his if we can correct errors he couldn’t correct. I find this illogical, as well as running contrary to your often repeated belief that your God is all-powerful and always in control. We should also remember that all these errors accumulated over thousands of millions of years of evolution (unless bacteria suffered from all the diseases now known to humankind!) and so the question must arise as to how and when these “safeguards” were actually installed? How could he have directly dabbled or provided the first cells with a 3.8-billion-year programme to correct errors he could not correct?

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