David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 17:53 (1472 days ago) @ dhw
edited by David Turell, Tuesday, November 10, 2020, 18:01

DAVID: Your approach is to state God ran evolution but didn't design everyone!! Fine, so please tell me how God did it. You posit God gave organisms the ability to design the next steps, and that is how it works. That is a possible answer.

dhw: And that is all I ask: recognition that the theory of cellular intelligence is a possible explanation of how evolution works.

DAVID: Recognized.

dhw:n Thank you.

(I am juxtaposing parts of your post in order to highlight the salient points.)

DAVID: The history of evolution makes sense to me. Bacteria to humans with a giant bush for food.

dhw: But the history of evolution reveals bacteria to vast numbers of extinct non-humans with their own extinct food supplies, and by your own admission, these have no connection with humans. Hence my querying your statement that all life forms and econiches were “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”.

Why are you so worried about past events in evolution? Of course present humans are related to the Cambrians in the sense that our evolutionary line runs through them. But that was then and this is now. Evolution is a continuum from then to now. So What!

DAVID: Our difference here is my view of God, as in full control of His purpose, will directly design.

dhw: […] If his purpose was to directly design humans, why did he directly design millions of life forms and food supplies that have no direct connection with humans?

DAVID: Again faulting God for taking all that time to evolve us. I believe God ran evolution as the CREATOR of reality.

dhw: I am not faulting God! I know what you believe. And I am asking you why, if your God’s sole purpose was to directly design humans, did he directly design millions of life forms and food supplies that have no direct connection with humans? Most of this post repeats your suggestion that I am “faulting God”, whereas I am faulting the logic of your INTERPRETATION of God’s purpose and method, and you continue to dodge the question.

I don't dodge as I try to understand your confusing form of logic. The bold is your way of misinterpreting my belief: God's GOAL was humans. He had many purposes, which involved carefully designing all the branches so ecosystems would be formed to provide the food supply for a huge human population. All logical based on past history and current knowledge.

dhw: Your final response is that you are “perfectly content with that interpretation of God and His activities to produce us.” I would not wish to disturb your contentment, but can’t help wondering why you are so afraid to repeat your earlier admission that you have no idea why your God would have chosen to “evolve” (= directly design) humans by first directly designing millions of life forms that have no connection to humans.

Weird repeat question. I don't have the foggiest idea as to God's reasons for wanting us and choosing to evolve us, instead of direct creation. But the need for a food supply is an overwhelming consideration. We can't have one without the other. God as designer created it all. The weird illogic of your questions has always completely escaped me.

dhw: Apologies for the bolded repetitions, but I am a born optimist, and am still hopeful that one of them might finally get you to answer the question - even if it's a repeat of "I have no idea!"!

You refuse to accept m y answers based logically on my beliefs. The problem is what you do not believe, which creates your objections.