David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Friday, November 13, 2020, 22:53 (21 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: This discussion is now verging on parody. I will save time and space by putting all your responses together, and then repeating your own demolition of each of them. The question you keep refusing to answer is: if your God’s only goal was to design humans and their food supply , why would he have directly designed all the other extinct life forms and food supplies that did NOT lead to humans? [/b]This is in reply to your statement that all life forms were “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans.”

DAVID:
1) Humans evolved from bacteria. God created reality and therefore God created humans by evolving them from bacteria. The plan was the continuum of designed evolution through each stage that bothers you.
2) Each stage needed its food supply
3) What is cast in iron is an understanding that common descent means everything now is related to the past.

*** 1) All species evolved from bacteria. By “evolved” you mean God directly designed. The continuum of evolution was a branching out into vast numbers of now extinct life forms and econiches, 99% of which had no connection with humans. Your self-demolition, taking the brontosaurus as one example out of millions: “Of course the brontosaurus is not directly connected to us.” And “extinct life has no role in current time.” If extinct life had no connection to humans and no role in current time, how could it all have been part of the goal of evolving humans?

The part you skip is common descent. We all use the same DNA code from bacteria to us. God designed each stage with more and more complexity to get to us. God decided to evolve us: since God creates history, history tells us how He did it. As for the bold above, that is your miniscule interpretation of how I view God. God created the fine=tuned universe to allow life. Then He guided the giant Milky Way formation to allow the Earth-friendly planet to form, which had many necessary attributes, in a safe areas of the galaxy; with all that in place He created life with Archaea bacteria. He then evolved Humans with a giant food bush to nourish them. All important interim goals on the way to His final goal of having us most unusual and unexpected form to ever appear (Adler).


dhw: *** 2) Self-demolition: “The current bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms.” “Each step is self-sufficient at the time of that step.” Repeat: “extinct life has no role in current time.” So how can every life form and its food supply have been “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”?

***3) Common descent means that all existing branches and all extinct branches go back to the original cells. It does not mean that all extinct branches led to humans! Back to 1): If the brontosaurus plus many millions of extinct life forms had no direct connection to humans, and if there was no connection between past food bushes and the current food bush, and if “extinct life has no role in current time”, how can every extinct life form and food supply have been part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”?

dhw: You yourself have “no idea” why your God would have chosen to directly design all these millions of non-human life forms and food supplies, 99% of which had no connection to humans, if his only purpose was to directly design us, and so once again I suggest we leave it at that.

I know what history tells me. I don't have to know why He decided to do it this way. All of your complaints are simply criticisms of God's choices of action as I view it. I asked you along time ago if you wanted direct creation as a result of your complaints about God. That is the conclusion anyone who believes would think. Your demolition exists only in your illogical approach to the concept of a non-human God.


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