Back to David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections (Evolution)

by David Turell , Thursday, August 06, 2020, 18:57 (1568 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Please think through the obvious sequence of events: the DNA makes a mistake that God doesn't like so He corrects it. A mistake He likes He lets go forward. He doesn't control the molecular mistakes, but adapts His response to them. During evolution God is coding DNA and creating evolution.

dhw: But you keep telling us that he couldn’t stop or control the mistakes. If you can’t control them, how can you correct them? You are making it sound as if nothing now exists except beneficial errors! Or are you telling us that during evolution he liked nasty errors as well as nice ones, so he let them go forward too? In that case, if he had the ability to correct them but didn’t, he is responsible for their current existence.

We are discussing God actions during evolution, not now. At that time of species production He was coding DNA/the whole genome actively. The DNA/genome then ran the species' living biochemical mechanisms and DNA was free to make unintended mistakes in reproduction. Since God was actively coding, of course He could step in and correct unintended changes. I don't know where the question about 'nasty' comes from except your strange confusion about all this subject. Simply, as stated many time before, God allowed mistakes that fit his purpose. If nasty fit His purpose, then they also were allowed to survive.

DAVID: Total confusion. Do you look old? I do, Ageing is builtin to die 'naturally'. Yes there may b e an unidentifiable cause, or you may pass in your sleep, cause unknown. What He corrects is for the living during evolution.

dhw: Of course we age. And you have told us that death by old age was deliberately designed, whereas death by any other mutational change was accidental and random. So again: he must have “allowed” all those nasty mutational changes to survive although according to you he could have corrected them (although also according to you, he couldn’t control them). Total confusion indeed.

Note the bold. Most mutations affect future progeny. Talk about who is confused. Most organisms age and die because aging is purposely built in.

dhw: Once more, how can he be in full control when you tell us that he couldn’t stop the molecular errors, was correcting as much as he could, high speed reactions can have errors God can’t control, and he can’t stop molecular errors ? I wish you would reconsider your error-strewn theory of errors.

DAVID: You still cannot understand molecules are free to make mistakes, even if guided by instructions. God cannot ride herd on every molecule while it is in action in processes. I don't believe in the human Bible description that God can be in total control of everything down to the last living molecule in action.

dhw: I understand perfectly that molecules are free to make mistakes. For years now I have been proposing that cells in general are free not only to make mistakes but also to make the beneficial changes which for some reason you also regard as mistakes. Meanwhile, you have just told us (bolded above) that “He is still in full control”, but you don’t believe he can be “in total control”. Your theory is full of contradictions.

Your thinking is filled with contradictions. The bold indicates you have some appreciation of the facts about molecular mistakes. Currently God does not make corrections, we are delegated to do so. I accept and have always known God has certain limits in control over high speed molecular reactions. I still view Him as all-powerful.