Back to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Friday, July 24, 2020, 19:39 (97 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You are the consummate dodger. The bolds above show it. God has the expressed right to evolve us over time. We are the endpoint of his works with our huge brain and consciousness. It is obvious and you refuse to back down from an untenable position.

dhw: The problem which yet again you have dodged is why, if your all-powerful God’s one and only purpose right from the beginning was to design H. sapiens, he spent 3.X billion years specially designing billions of now extinct non-human life forms, econiches, natural wonders, lifestyles, strategies. Your only answer, apart from telling us that we can’t read God’s mind, is that they were all necessary to provide food for the humans who were not yet there. This defies all logic. Please stop dodging.

As usual totally illogical: God is eternal. Time is of no matter to Him, but it is to your humanizing mind about Him. Accept that God chose to evolve us, as history shows.


dhw: I suppose I shall have to repeat your immortal words: “He and we probably have similar thought patterns and emotions beyond just simple logical thought.” Another quote I noted from a discussion at around the same time was: “I agree He probably does have some of our attributes.

All stated as guesses. Why don't you quote that!! Only logical thought is a definite.


dhw: Why are my guesses less “substantive” than your guess, which defies all human logic? There is nothing wrong with “humanizing”, as you quite rightly pointed out in the statement which I keep quoting and which you keep trying to forget.

DAVID: Of course He may have human purposes. Your guesses are all humanizing and mine try to picture Him as full of direct purpose, without any self interest. Different approaches.

dhw: Why do you differentiate between human purposes and “direct” purpose? All the purposes I have proposed are “direct”, as are those you have reluctantly offered yourself. The only difference in our approach is that I have linked each purpose to the history of life in what you agree is a logical manner, whereas your theory is so illogical that you have no idea why your all-powerful God would have spent 3.X billion years not designing the only species (plus food supply) that he wanted to design.

Explained above: why should an eternal God care about the time it took???!!!


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