Back to David's theory of evolution (Evolution)

by David Turell , Wednesday, August 19, 2020, 19:06 (1555 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: I have no doubt that if God exists, he fully understands what is involved in creating the huge bush of life. I doubt very much that he would understand why you think he has to create the huge bush of life (past and present) if his one and only goal is to create a single life form with its own big bush of food supply. Why do you keep complaining about my bold? Please tell me in what way it misrepresents your own fixation.

DAVID: You have always said God in control could choose to evolve humans. your problem, not mine.

dhw: Your problem is that while choosing to evolve (= directly design) humans - who were his one and only goal - he also apparently chose to evolve (directly design) millions of other life forms etc. which had nothing to do with humans. You have no idea why he would choose such a method to achieve such a purpose. My problem is to understand why you remain fixated on such an illogical theory when there are several other theories that logically explain his choice to evolve every organism that ever evolved, including humans.

I am not illogical. I have to explain how humans arrived though the process of evolution in a reality run by God. You have to provide a reasonable explanation other than mine. And all you provide are theories that use humanized versions of God. The reason we continue to debate is that we each have a very different version of God's personality, and therefore, we describe very different approaches to the issue. As before, my view of God is not yours, and therefore you find my God doing illogical actions. There is no solution to satisfy both of us.

dhw: I did not compare your theory with Genesis. I was trying to point out that Genesis had a more cohesive version of your theory: your God fulfilled his one and only goal by directly designing H. sapiens and his food supply. But because you believe in evolution, you have him directly designing anything but H. sapiens and his food supply until he has designed millions of other life forms and food supplies. And you don’t know why he would have chosen such a roundabout method.

DAVID: Evolution is historical fact. I fully believe God is in charge of creating reality. Therefore He evolved humans. Nothing illogical except your interpretations of my thinking.

dhw: Again you have forgotten that therefore (assuming he exists) he also evolved millions of other life forms etc. that had nothing to do with humans. I have not “interpreted” your thinking, but have reproduced it over and over again in your own words. Or do you now reject your opinion of a few days ago that the millions of preceding and extinct life forms and their food supplies which had nothing to do with humans were “part of the goal of evolving humans” – your reasoning being that all of those past econiches “are the necessary food supply for an enormous number of species and humans” – as if the food supply for species that died out millions of years ago was necessary for a species that did not yet exist!

Total usual mishmash of distorted reasoning. The bolds are totally logical for me. The red sentence describes how evolution from bacteria works!!! It is an exact description. You keep muddling along, while never accepting my very purposeful God who knows exactly what He is doing.