David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by David Turell , Saturday, October 31, 2020, 18:10 (1482 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Agreed. All extinct life forms are not our direct ancestors.

dhw: Thank you. Since ancestry was your only justification for claiming that all extinct life forms were “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”, we can say goodbye to Part One of your theory.

DAVID: I said direct ancestors, which means not recently. All of us are descended from bacteria

dhw: Round we go. If we believe in common descent, every species is descended from bacteria. But evolution branched out in millions of different directions, and the extinct 99% of life forms were not our direct ancestors. You agree that there is no connection between, for instance, the brontosaurus and us, so how can you argue that he directly designed the brontosaurus as “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”?

Yes, 99% of previously living forms are gone today .The various extinct branches like dinos were not a dead end; they ended up as birds in our time. The mammals who survived Chixculub become primates and then us. You are still denying the continuous relationships from past forms. The various branches that did survive to today are the food supply for the huge populations on Earth, especially humans. God runs evolution by design and by logic. I don't see any logic in your presentations about evolution.

dhw: Perhaps now you will stop making such silly statements as: “God knew we would populate the Earth as He designed the entire bush of life for our food supply”.

DAVID: Only silly as in a Godless view of history.

dhw: The food supply consists of life forms! And 99% of them are extinct! Just as the extinct dinosaurs are not our ancestors and have no connection with us, the food they ate – especially the food of the meat-eaters – is also extinct and has no connection with our food supply! “Extinct life has no role in present time.” Goodbye to Part Two of your theory.

DAVID: Still chopping up evolution so it doesn't look like a continuum!!!

dhw: It is not a continuum from bacteria to humans! It branched out! That is why you quite rightly observed that “extinct life has no role in present time”.

Yes there you recognize logic. But we can trace a direct line from bacteria to humans, as things branch away.

DAVID: There is obvious logic in building a giant food supply for us to live on.

dhw: But there is no logic in claiming that your God specially designed 3.X billion years’ worth of extinct food supplies (= all the organisms in an econiche) for us to live on when we were not even there. Once again in your words: “extinct life has no role in present time.” Therefore neither the extinct life forms nor their extinct food supplies could have been part of the goal of evolving [= specially designing] humans! Please stop trying to defend a theory which you have effectively demolished by drawing attention to “the obvious”.

DAVID Again evolution is a continuum from bacteria to us. And my belief is God was in charge of designing it. You can keep twisting quotes out of context all you wish. I've not changed.

dhw: Again, evolution is a continuum from bacteria to every branch of life’s bush, but that does not mean that there is a continuum from every branch of life’s bush to humans!

Of course all branches don't lead to humans. That is your constant misinterpretation of my views

dhw: I am not disputing your belief in God but your belief that he designed every individual species, and that every individual species was “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”! That is the context, and all the demolishing quotes are your answers to my questions concerning that context.

My answers are consistent: God ran evolution and produced all branches of evolution on His way to producing a current situation on Earth where Humans are in charge and have a huge population and its necessary food supply in the huge bush of life. God creates logical plans and solutions that you fail to see. The branches may be branches but they all relate through common descent. Darwin's drawing of a tree fits. But all you see is evolution running off in all directions, and weirdly losing any sense of a previous plan by God.