David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by dhw, Wednesday, November 11, 2020, 10:44 (1471 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: The history of evolution makes sense to me. Bacteria to humans with a giant bush for food.

dhw: But the history of evolution reveals bacteria to vast numbers of extinct non-humans with their own extinct food supplies, and by your own admission, these have no connection with humans. Hence my querying your statement that all life forms and econiches were “part of the goal of evolving [= directly designing] humans”.

DAVID: Why are you so worried about past events in evolution? Of course present humans are related to the Cambrians in the sense that our evolutionary line runs through them. But that was then and this is now. Evolution is a continuum from then to now. So What!

You still refuse to look at the complete picture. Yes, there must be a continuous line from bacteria through the Cambrian to humans. There must be a continuous line from bacteria to every single life form that ever lived and died. But according to you, your God directly designed them all. So if his only goal was to design humans, why would he have designed all the other lines that did NOT lead to humans?

dhw: Most of this post repeats your suggestion that I am “faulting God”, whereas I am faulting the logic of your INTERPRETATION of God’s purpose and method, and you continue to dodge the question.

DAVID: I don't dodge as I try to understand your confusing form of logic. The bold is your way of misinterpreting my belief: God's GOAL was humans. He had many purposes, which involved carefully designing all the branches so ecosystems would be formed to provide the food supply for a huge human population. All logical based on past history and current knowledge.

The only purpose you have suggested is the creation of H. sapiens and his food supply. And you are now repeating your theory that every single extinct life form in the history of the world was designed to provide a food supply for a human population that did not yet exist! You have already demolished this theory with your own observation that “the current bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms”, and “extinct life has no role in current time”. Back to the question I keep repeating and you keep dodging: why would your God have designed millions of extinct life forms and econiches that have no connection with humans if his GOAL was to design humans and their food supply?

DAVID: Weird repeat question. I don't have the foggiest idea as to God's reasons for wanting us and choosing to evolve us, instead of direct creation. But the need for a food supply is an overwhelming consideration. We can't have one without the other. God as designer created it all. The weird illogic of your questions has always completely escaped me.

But according to you every single species in life’s history and every single stage from ape to sapiens WAS direct creation, either by preprogramming or by dabbling! Food supplies are necessary for every life form, but that does not explain why your God directly designed millions of life forms and econiches that have no connection with humans if his GOAL etc. etc.

dhw: Apologies for the bolded repetitions, but I am a born optimist, and am still hopeful that one of them might finally get you to answer the question - even if it's a repeat of "I have no idea!"!

DAVID: You refuse to accept my answers based logically on my beliefs. The problem is what you do not believe, which creates your objections.

The problem is the sheer illogicality of your theory, and your determination to look the other way, despite all my bolds.