Let's study ID: giraffe plumbing: cognition (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Sunday, November 14, 2021, 15:16 (13 days ago) @ dhw

QUOTE:"Understanding how ecosystems respond to changes in large predator populations is vital to resolving broader debates about the structure of food webs, determining species abundance and delivering ecosystem services, said the authors. (David's bold)

DAVID: Note the bold. Food webs are vital to all living organisms. It is a fact dhw admits and then poopoos. The current huge human population was anticipated for by God and prepared for by the giant food bush appearing from all the branches of evolution designed by God.

dhw: I don’t poopoo the blindingly obvious fact that food webs are vital to all living organisms. I poopoo the illogical theory that your God’s only purpose was to design humans and our food and therefore he proceeded to design countless life forms, foods and econiches that had no connection with humans. You never cease to dodge this obvious illogicality and to contradict yourself on the subject of past “food webs”. Yet again, these are your wise words: “The current bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms” and “Extinct life has no role in current time.”

Your confusion is amazing. These statements simply recognize that different previous time periods differ from the present, nothing more.


DAVID: My theory is totally logical to me. Your objections are your problem in your weird approach to God. It is a belief-fact for me.

dhw: What is a belief-fact? This is your constant blockage – you simply cannot accept that your God individually designing every species is NOT a fact, and your God’s sole purpose being to design humans and their food is NOT a fact. The only fact in this discussion is that countless species have been and gone, and humans are the last species so far to have appeared.

That history is correct and allows individual interpretation of God's actions, with which you disagree, so we debate from the positions of belief in God and a non-belief in God.


DAVID: God must exist because of the complexity of biological designs.

dhw: A perfectly reasonable belief, as I have always acknowledged.

DAVID: Per Adler we are an unusual result of a possible natural process as Darwin described that we are an end point purpose for evolution conducted supernaturally by God.

dhw:This sentence doesn’t make sense. Yes, we are unique, but according to you, God designed every other life form, lifestyle and natural wonder as well. So…yet again…why would he have specially designed all those that had no connection with humans, plus food, if humans plus food were his only purpose? You have no idea, and I must ask God!

The obvious answer which confuses you is God chose to create humans by a stepwise design process that mimics Darwin's natural evolution


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