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DAVID: Your tunnel view is unchanged. God's endpoint is humans, and all is connected by the concept of evolution in which simple leads to complexity in stages, which you separate as non-connected.
dhw: I'm not sure how my unanswered questions concerning the logic of your tunnel view can become my tunnel view! “All is connected” by the fact that all life forms descended from the first. But all life forms are not connected with one another, because life branched out into countless different forms, the vast majority of which, by your own admission, had no connection with humans and their food. It is therefore illogical to claim that all life forms were “part of the goal of evolving [by which you mean specially designing] humans” and their food. You have continued to dodge this issue for what seems like years
Yes bushes branch off and we are the end point of a specific branch. However all branches are connected at the roots, the start of life. And all the branches are providing food for everyone in every branch. All life must have new energy so necessary food supply is present as God planned it. You just don't like God's planning for the huge present human population He saw coming. Oh, I forgot, your God is not sure of where he is going so He experiments
DAVID: You sneer at the need for food, why? Many of the current animals and plants serve our needs in many other ways besides food and you should recognize that. No need to list them. Plants serve the same food and other obvious purposes. (dhw's bold)dhw: Yes, the “current ones”, but as you have said yourself and continue to ignore: “The current bush of food is NOW for humans NOW. There were smaller bushes in the PAST for PAST forms” and “Extinct life has no role in current time”. Please stop pretending that current necessities explain past necessities which had no connection with humans.
DAVID: All connected in the concept of a continuous evolution from simple to complex.
dhw: But not “all connected” with your God’s one and only goal of specially designing humans and their food.
My God knows what He is doing and His plan is obvious to me.
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