Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Friday, September 10, 2021, 17:29 (43 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: If you can't find any logic in this theory, and you think your God's logic is like ours, then maybe your theory is wrong.

DAVID: Once again you demand a tunnel-visioned God who must leap to producing us simple because He wants us. Maybe in your human way, if you were God, you would jump immediately to creating us. But my God who creates everything created a history which fits my thinking, not what you suggest.

dhw: But the history does not fit your thinking! You think your God is all-powerful, and had only one purpose for creating life (humans plus food), but the history shows countless forms of life and food that had no connection with humans!

What are you smoking? My theory follows history exactly. It is obvious God chose to evolve/design us starting with bacteria. That resulted in the present food supply and countless forms alive and extinct.


DAVID: I don't need to know God's reasoning in how He went about His creating job. Having a goal doesn't make your strange complaint about God in any way realistic. All I do is look at God's works (creation history).

dhw: You agree that your God’s work is a history containing life forms and foods that had no connection with humans,

God's designed evolution means each new stage comes from the last stage. Evolution is a continuum in which all parts are connected even if many branchings occurred..

dhw: you have no idea why he designed them if his one and only purpose was to design us, and so you tell me to ask God for the logical explanation you cannot find.

I cannot know why God chose to do it this way. I simply accept His works as presented.


DAVID: I'll turn it around. You tell me how you would have God produce us. If you don't like how my God works, give us your version confined to making humans, nothing more.

dhw: If God exists, I am perfectly happy with the way he works. I am not complaining about all the species that lived and died and had no connection with humans! I’m a fan of evolution, with all its vast variety of life forms. I just don’t like your theory that he only had one purpose and therefore spent all those billions of years designing all those life forms etc. that had nothing to do with his purpose! However, if I were your all-powerful God, and humans and their food were my purpose, I would proceed exactly as he proceeds in Genesis: create the food first, and then create the humans. Just like that. But you and I don’t believe that it happened that way, do we? And so you are left with the question you cannot answer, and you tell me to ask God to explain your theory to me.

In Genesis humans came last and everything else first day by day. But we know Hebrew scholars translate 'day' as meaning a length of time. It is exactly how our science says it happened.
Your complaint is baseless. Humans were His eventual goal is how I view it and will not change because you complain.


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