Let's study ID (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, August 20, 2021, 18:31 (974 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Why don't you recognize evolution has a past, a present, and perhaps a future? We are discussing the useful presence of current branches that feed all living forms.

dhw: It is YOU who keep trying to dodge the past! There is no dispute over the fact that current branches feed current forms. The dispute, which you continue to gloss over, concerns your claim that ALL forms of life and food, extant and extinct, were specially designed by your God in order to fulfil his one and only goal of designing humans and their food, although the vast majority of past life forms and foods had no connection with humans and their food.

The past created the future by God's designs. That is my firm belief, but not yours. So be it..

DAVID: Oh, I forgot, your God is not sure of where he is going so He experiments.

dhw: Experimenting is only one of my alternatives, but at least it explains why your God might have specially designed all the life forms and foods which you keep telling us were part of his one and only goal of designing humans although they had no connection with humans.

DAVID: You distort God's goal as singular. Humans are/were the planned endpoint. In my view evolution has ended. The current bush is the final bush.

dhw: It is YOU who have constantly claimed that God’s goal is singular! And you claim that all life forms etc. were/are “part of the goal of evolving [= designing] humans” and their food. That is the nub of the whole endless dispute. How can they possibly have been part of that one goal if the vast majority of them had no connection with humans? (I’m not going to forecast what evolution will come up with in the next few billion years.)

Endless strange interpretation. You set goals and reach them. I set goals and reach them. So does God. All of us accomplish lots of necessary things/events along the way, all a continuous journey from start to finish. Only you wan to to chop it into segments so nothing is related. Strange.